When a market knows it must contend with fraudulent product AND that a good percentage of that market will support the fraud, what's the decision you think vendors will make when it comes to prioritizing investments in this business? Licensed or unlicensed? WISPs or a market segment that buys only legal product? For Pete's sake people, you think your actions don't have actual consequences just because you are staying within the legal power limits? Some of you make guys make the jobs of guys like me who seriously give a rip real, real hard.
So then while I congratulate Lonnie's innovation, he needs to come clean and go legal. Sorry Lonnie, but yes if you are doing this it does gall me. It galls me when folks outside our borders go around the legal paths to our market. It's cheesy. It's dishonest. It's anti-competitive. And it's simply illegal. You've done all the work, why not go legal? If not, do you have any right to complain if someone copies your soft work and sells it as his own? Or do you think, "Hey, that's different, he's damaging me!" You guys may not like the rules, but they are there and the rest of us have to abide by them and incur all the expense required to play by the rules. And if you are an operator reading this, do you really think staying under the legal power limit makes you righteous? It makes you no more righteous that a guy beside you on the tower that does a beautiful NEC poster child of an install but does not have legal right to use the tower. I know many find this attitude insulting and I know as a vendor I'm supposed to just hold my tongue so as not to piss people off, because there will be those who might say, "Because of that attitude I've never buy one Alvarion radio!" Maybe so, but I can accept that because this stuff weakens all WISPs claims, all attempts to be regarded as legitimate players, and it sucker punches all of us who fight on your behalf. For sure, in doing so you can't ever complain about the person that sneaks into the ball game for free, right behind home plate, while you and your family paid. Don't you ever complain that your neighbor's kid gets a student grant because his parents hide income when yours can't qualify because your family makes "too much." Don't you ever complain about a rancher or farmer getting over on you on water rights because no one's looking. And don't complain about the Yahoo next door using an illegal amp. Illegal WISPs equivocate by saying, "Hey, I'm within the power limits. I'm not hurting anyone." Well, it's not true. You are hurting every legitimate WISP and every legitimate vendor, and in turn you hurt the entire industry. And some WISPs have the gall to say, why won't someone build X? Well, maybe because so many WISPs to save themselves a buck will buy illegal product that it discourages investment from legit players. When a market knows it must contend with fraudulent product AND that a good percentage of that market will support the fraud, what's the decision you think vendors will make when it comes to prioritizing investments? And if I was a legal operator in the same market as an illegal competitor, I'd for sure use that against them with respect to winning roof and tower rights, fighting their interference in court, and informing their customers of the risks. And that'd all be an entirely fair and ethical approach. Rant off. Sigh. G'night. Be safe this New Years. ...and BE LEGAL! Patrick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients... Then you must not be aware that Lonnie is now also selling the complete package. The newest product is Star V3, Atheros cm9 and a gateworks customized board to Lonnies specs. It's called the WAR board, or Wireless Advanced Router. They come in 2 flavors, a 4 port 533MHz proc or a 2 port 266MHz proc, both with 2 ethernets. Can do 5, 10, 20,,40MHz channel widths. I have better than 200 maybe 250 by now WAR boards in place with Pac Wireless Rootennas both 5 gig and 2 gig. Recently I built a new pop using a water tank. My transfer rate from the tank to my house gave me just under 30megs ftp across that link using a pair of 266's. Most of the links I put in are 5 gig and I use the 2nd port for a 2 gig wifi ap for the immediate area. I can honestly say that I can not remember having to reboot any of my war boards and 20 megs is not uncommon across my wireless man. ************************************************************************************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************************ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/