Pretty sure it was no ad hoc.

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Right, but do they have their units in ad hoc mode shouting out that essid?
I see HP setup quite abit and that is in ad hoc mode. Naturally thats an HP
printer waiting to get set up.

George

Rick Smith wrote:
> no, mikrotik in this case, doing a 'scan' on the interface...shows 
> their ssid's in their trucks...
> 
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> type
> 
> ad hoc mode?
> 
> Rick Smith wrote:
>> nod, a scan on the AP shows them...
>>
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>> On Behalf Of Ralph
>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:23 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC 
>> type
>>
>> If they still operate as before, you shouldn't see them unless you 
>> set your tower as a client/cpe.  I have never seen them do anything 
>> with an AP, other than BE one.  Dis you know that was what the 
>> SST-PR-1 was
> before?
>>
>>  
>>
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>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC 
>> type
>>
>> yeah I can see 10 - 12 of them at any time off one of my towers.
>> I'm 1/2 mile from a sears garage where they repair those vans...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of Ralph
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:11 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC type
>>
>> Hi Matt-
>>
>> Back in my old Net-Stumbler days (back when you could drive across 
>> Atlanta and see less than 20 Access Points, and 2 were my own), the
> "experimenters"
>> of the day became perplexed by this SSID that kept popping up at 
>> random times.  It was an Access Point named "SST-PR-1"  The first 
>> time I saw it, I was in my basement and I knew full well what I could 
>> normally receive down there.
>>
>> There were all kinds of theories:  an AP on a low earth orbit 
>> satellite, something on a passing vehicle, some sort of temporary 
>> SSID on
> a piece of
>> gear that just showed up right at bootup, etc.   Googling for SST-PR-1
> might
>> actually turn up some of the old discussions about it.
>>
>> Anyway- I started seeing it a lot in the evenings after they built 
>> some apartments behind me.  I sent my son over there on his bike with 
>> a camera to do some investigating.  He soon found a Sears Service 
>> truck (the ones with the small Globalstar dish on top like you see on 
>> many semis) parked in front of an apartment.  He went back with a 
>> laptop and traced the signal to this van.  So we had it figured out- 
>> Sears
> truck.
>> A few days later, my son saw the driver coming home for the evening 
>> and the driver gave him the dog and pony show of the truck computer.
>> It is linked to Sears parts database via satellite. The SST-PR-1 is 
>> the SSID of an integral access point that allows the driver to use a 
>> laptop from inside the customer's home to check on parts, see service 
>> manuals, etc. The SST stands for "Sears Smart Toolbox".
>>
>> I once told a friend about it and he set up a laptop to warn him when 
>> the Sears guy entered the neighborhood on his way to fix their 
>> refrigerator.  An "early warning" system of sorts.
>>
>> So, the big SST-PR-1 mystery was finally solved by a 12 year old kid!
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:16 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC
>>
>> AHA!!!!
>>
>> I've been wondering where the hell that TruckPC request has been 
>> coming from!!!!!!
>>
>> Occasionally, I have techs who have left the radius authentication 
>> disabled on an access point and the dhcp logs will start to fill up 
>> with requests from "TruckPC".  They were coming from access points 
>> all
> over
>> the place and I was a little perplexed.   It is interesting to watch our 
>> radius logs too.  I have one AP overlooking a little town of 200 
>> people, but it is right next to an interstate and the radius log from 
>> that AP is always showing logins.  Must be all the trucker laptops 
>> whizzing by looking for an open AP.
>>
>> I've been toying with the idea of turning on hotspot functionality so 
>> that we can provide transient access, and this is probably a good 
>> reason to do it.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> Ralph wrote:
>>> Well, JohnnyO- you might want to also educate these people, then:
>>> http://www.drivertech.com/
>>>
>>> Their product, a "Truckpc" is being installed in many fleet vehicles. 
>>> One fleet that comes to mind is US Express, a long haul package 
>>> hauling
>> service
>>> http://www.usxpress.com/   The device communicates back to the office
via
>>> Satellite, Cellular, or WiFi- whichever is available and cheaper.  
>>> According to the manufacturer, it can hunt down open and unsecured 
>>> access points and do your "HIGHLY illegal" act of connecting and 
>>> sending its data whenever it can.
>>>
>>> I'm not endorsing this behavior, of course, but I wanted to bring it 
>>> to the attention of the list.
>>>
>>> How do I know?   My WISP operates hotspot portals that allow casual
users
>> to
>>> make use of our mountain and tower-top sectors of WiFi.  These cover 
>>> major portions of several towns.  These towns have a major 
>>> Interstate route passing through them.  I began noticing numerous 
>>> TRUCKPC leases being granted by the DHCP servers in these towns.  I 
>>> became concerned about what they were, so I did a little internet 
>>> research and ended up on the phone with technical support at 
>>> Drivertech. This is who confirmed how these devices operate and who 
>>> the probable fleet culprit
>> was.
>>> If anyone has portals near major truck routes, check your DHCP logs 
>>> and see if you see the TRUCKPC SSID grabbing leases. You may want to 
>>> either block it or contact these folks and work out a "roaming
> agreement".
>>>
>>>
>>> Serious part over, joke follows:
>>>
>>> This message brought to you by the World's largest free wireless 
>>> internet provider. Look for our SSID wherever you go: Linksys.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of JohnnyO
>>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 5:35 PM
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio 
>>> for802.11b/g
>>>
>>> Brian - Ham Operator or not - do you realize that what you're 
>>> planning on doing is HIGHLY illegal and has several people over the 
>>> past 2 yrs in Federal Prison as we speak ?
>>>
>>>   
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