All too true and I hate that for you -- as if your business is not tough
enough to manage. Surely the work of some trusted "consultant." That's
why I cringe when I hear someone talks about cities or states going to
the historic "consultants" to get design, etc. help. The only qualified
"consultants" I have even met in this business are a select crop of
actual WISPs, a tiny smattering of VARs, and the vendors that "live" in
the space.

Patrick Leary

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of cw
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV white spaces

I don't know how you expect the industry to police itself when the FCC
acts 
deaf. Next time you encounter a damnit remark, add state government to
the 
list of not playing nice. Our footprint is the Florida Keys. Last year
the 
department of transportation decided to erect giant poles down the
center of 
our one highway to put up signs to tell us whether our highway was busy
or 
not and suggest no alternate route when it was (it's our only road).

They used 5.8GHz DSSS and 2.4GHz DSSS both for the poles to talk to each

other. Grid antennas polluted the spectrum even more. Because of the
narrow 
geographic nature of the islands and the highway being in the center,
one 
can't even use a 5.8GHz cordless phone inside their home anymore. When
we 
called Tallahassee to complain, the head of the DoT IT dept wanted to
know 
why we weren't using 4.9GHz for the buoy link the signs killed.

WISPs aren't the only ones shitting in their nests. Every day they pile
it 
higher and one just has to figure out another way around the edges. - cw

Patrick Leary wrote:
> No FUD being slung here. On the 4.9 issue I filed that question and
deal
> with that assumption quite a bit. I suspect your definition of WISP is
> more narrow than mine. Mine includes ANY entity providing services
with
> wireless broadband gear. There are utility-based WISPs, telco WISPs,
> large funded WISPs, Mom and Pop WISPs, rural WISPs, etc. The fact is
> that the public is not able and does not differentiate between all the
> competing groups of WISPs and groups like WISPA should understand
that.
> 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>I hope it does go UL, but I have also heard some recent rumblings that
>>the FCC is concerned with what seems like a widespread deterioration
of
>>WISPs following the rules. The phrase I recall is something along the
>>lines of "Damn it, these things are not guidelines."
>>
>>>From my view it is true. I see it in conversations that go beyond the
>>usual, "if you just stay within the power no one cares" to now where
>>people seem to via the STA process as a round-about tool to get access
>>to and use spectrum that does not commercially exist.
>>
>>Letting loose the same level of abuse in the TV bands is something
that
>>will cause real problems for the FCC should broadcasters be affected.
>>The WISP industry must do a better job of policing itself and
>>discouraging the slippery slope.
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