George, ones person's "innovation" is something that might another
person nothing but migraines. If you think you getting cutting edge
innovation and state of the art technology from the uncertified
manufacturers I don't know what to tell you except your technology
exposure may be a bit narrow.
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simplyabout
being"stickerconscious" or not??
Ho ho ho Patrick,
So, to add to the list of reasons why a lot of wisps use uncertified
gear.
One reason that was exposed, was that manufacturers were not keeping
up with technology fast enough and the kit systems offered newer
technology
and allowed a wisp to be more "innovative"
What say you Mr. Leary?
Has Alvarion been keeping up fast enough?
George
(oh yeah, I also think there was a lot of crap slung as cpe's)
Patrick Leary wrote:
Mac,
That's good news that some previously illegal gear is now undergoing
FCC
certification. It is good for everyone, regardless of what finally led
them to earn it. As WISPs, you should use that cert as a minimum
litmus
test, because it will tell you much more than just the cert itself; it
tells you that the vendor actual is concerned about YOUR business, not
just the money that can made off you. You should say to any illegal
vendor that you might use, "You know, I like your features and price,
but before I undertake any more study about the possibility of buying
your gear you need have your system FCC certified." Do that and those
guys will change their habits in a hurry.
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 10:17 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about
being"stickerconscious" or not??
Hold your Horses there Sir Patrick! There was one comment that used
that
in
their post - I don't think that "we" as an industry have evolved to
that
level of degradation in dealing with the laws of the land & air. There
will
always be renegades in every avenue of life, but "we" are not in that
classification :-) and given a little time we will be someone to be
reckoned
with as the industry leader in wireless across this country.
I must admit that I have learned a few things in the past week - or
had
some things clarified that were quite an awakening for me and a few
others.
I (for one) will not deploy even one more piece of hardware that is
not
FCC
certified. I have in the last year deployed many unlicensed access
points &
back haul radios though. I made a terrible mistake in doing that, but
I
was
under a false impression of what was "legal." The path we will follow
from
this point on is what is really going to count.
I do happen to know of two manufacturers who have gear at FCC
certification
labs today undergoing their certifications for some specific pieces of
their
gear. This is something that should have taken place a couple years
ago,
but
now is better than never. I realize that is not going to affect the
gear
I
have in the air today from these guys as it can not be certified -
ever
-
even if they happen to get the exact gear certified that I have on
towers
today.
I think this last visit WISPA members (Thanks men) made to the FCC
clarified
several things that needed clarification:
1. FILLOUT THOSE FORMS!
The FCC is not out to get us. They need the data that only we can
supply
them - like who we are, where we are (zip code), how many subs...Etc
This is their way of helping us. With out this data they can only
guess
how
many "we" are, how many we serve and the actual coverage area total.
Guys -
y'all please fill out the form 477 - - it's a good thing for us all.
2. WE ARE NOT LEGAL EVEN IF WE ARE NOT OVER POWERED OR OUT OF BAND.
I am not going into any details here because that is stated just
as
simple as it can get.
Sincerely,
Mac Dearman
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules are now simply about being
"stickerconscious" or not??
"Sticker conscious?" So this is what we've become as an industry?
Following the very clear laws, which were once again just reiterated
to
us after another in a long chain of WISP visits, or not has now been
reduced to simply being "sticker conscious" or "not sticker
conscious"?
Why not go further and call yourself "Illegal and proud" or just "I
don't give a ____"? Let's not have any more "gee, I can't afford to be
legal!" That's not an argument that is credible today, with the range
from legal cheap to premium CPE running from about $170 to sub-$300 --
that's cheap.
My God, 5.4 is going to be a massive mess. OET will have to install a
special phone line just to handle the incoming DoD complaint calls.
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] cost effective reliable 5.8G cpe suggestions?
RB112+CM9+Rootenna if you are not sticker conscious.
If you are sticker conscious I use the Tranzeo TR5a-24/20 with MT/CM9
setups and they work great.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
Not to stir the "fcc sticker" debate, but what gear is out there today
that is compatable with a MT/SR5 access point? Looking for lower
cost CPEs for 1-5 mile deployments.
Thanks
