Hi George,

49 here also, when do you turn 50?

-Dee

Alaska Wireless Systems
1(907)240-2183 Cell
1(907)349-2226 Fax
1(907)349-4308 Office
www.akwireless.net


----- Original Message -----
From: George Rogato
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To: WISPA General List
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Sent: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:06:43 -0900
Subject:
Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit


> No little kids here. Mine are all grown. One is the admin for 
> OregonFAST.net and the other 2 are pc techs here as well.
> 2 of them are actually owners of this business.
> 
> My wife mentioned having another but at 49, I'm thinking thats not a 
> good thing.
> 
> George
> 
> 
> Patrick Leary wrote:
> > You must not have little kids like I do! They got me up nice and early
> > at 6:30 AM today. I would not know recognize a weekend morning without
> > Sagwa or Clifford the Big Red Dog.
> > 
> > Patrick 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of George Rogato
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:49 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit
> > 
> > First off Patrick, we will be going to the carpet in a few minutes when 
> > I get my thoughts collected. I just woke up an hour ago and am sometimes
> > 
> > a little sluggish in the early hours.
> > 
> > 2nd, Dlink, Linksys and Netgear all have antennas listed on their sites 
> > for use with their units.
> > 
> > I may be wrong, but I would ass u me that they have been certified.
> > 
> > But do your due diligense and check first to make sure.
> > 
> > :)
> > 
> > George
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Patrick Leary wrote:
> > 
> >>"If your talking boxed units like netgear, dlink, and linksys sell, Of
> >>course they are certified. Is the certification void if it was torn
> >>apart and had a bigger antenna and amplifier added, probably not,
> > 
> > unless
> > 
> >>it is to their certified specs."
> >>
> >>That would be uncertified. This is not a debatable point. This would
> > 
> > be
> > 
> >>taking a consumer device, which is built to permit "self-installation"
> >>into a device for which the FCC says there must be a "professional"
> >>installation. These are the most confusing parts of the rules for
> >>novices, but basically if you are installing for another end user, you
> >>are assumed to be "professional," which actually imposes certain
> >>liabilities and responsibilities on you.
> >>
> >>Further, this would void the certification EVEN if it still met the
> >>manufacturer specs because, for better of worse, only the OEM
> >>manufacturer can self-certify antenna changes. George, you were in the
> >>room at the FCC with me when they told us this so you know it. It is
> >>impossible to forget since Marlon pounded them about for most of the
> >>meeting but they would not budge that only a manufacturer can pick and
> >>chose additional antennas and then only antennas of equal or less
> > 
> > power
> > 
> >>AND with similar specs (relative to emissions on sidelobs, etc.).
> > 
> > Really
> > 
> >>all that was done in that ruling was to make the "permissive change"
> >>rules more simple. None of this was done for the protection of the
> >>manufacturers, but rather to make sure the FCC had one throat to
> > 
> > choke.
> > 
> >>Patrick Leary
> >>AVP WISP Markets
> >>Alvarion, Inc.
> >>o: 650.314.2628
> >>c: 760.580.0080
> >>Vonage: 650.641.1243
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > On
> > 
> >>Behalf Of George Rogato
> >>Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:24 AM
> >>To: WISPA General List
> >>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Brief report from FCC visit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Sam Tetherow wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>So are you saying that a PCMCIA card with software and internal
> >>
> >>antenna 
> >>
> >>
> >>>is not certified?
> >>>
> >>>No one has yet to answer this question for me.  Is it legal for Best
> >>
> >>Buy 
> >>
> >>
> >>>to sell DLink/Linksys/Netgear/Belkin/... pcmcia cards for laptops?
> >>
> >>What 
> >>
> >>
> >>>about USB dongles?  If they are legal how is they can certify a card
> >>
> >>and 
> >>
> >>
> >>>drivers, but we can't certify a minipci with software?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>If your talking boxed units like netgear, dlink, and linksys sell,
> >>Of course they are certified.
> >>Is the certification void if it was torn apart and had a bigger
> > 
> > antenna 
> > 
> >>and amplifier added, probably not, unless it is to their certified
> >>specs.
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> George Rogato
> 
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