Mikrotik hasn't realized yet how much money they can make by implementing CALEA 100% and charging $100-$200 extra for a CALEA specific capture license...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik's (lame) answer to CALEA as of 4/23 > But does that meet CALEA specs? Not really, since it does not do the > MD5 hash and such. At least that is what I get from reading about > CALEA. Basically if a TTP doesn't sign off on it you <might> be at the > wrong end of a investigation when the lawyers start saying it was not > captured correctly. You should talk to your lawyer about it and not > take my opinion of it as anything but just what it is, stinky just > like every ones. > > > On 4/23/07, Smith, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're reading too much into it. > > > > They're right. The ability is there to mirror every packet to/from a IP > > address onto disk. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of ralph > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 12:23 PM > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik's (lame) answer to CALEA as of 4/23 > > > > It is lame because it is a feature that the user community needs and > > wants, > > and the vendor is passing the buck. > > > > Not surprising, concerning their actions on FCC certification of other > > products. > > > > Mikrotik makes dandy router software and I support them on that. > > > > We do use the PC version in some POPs > > > > > > > > Open CALEA is just not yet ready for prime time, however the compliance > > date > > loometh soon. > > > > > > > > The CALEA tap/probe should be something that can be done in the router > > (I > > think that's how Cisco implemented it). > > > > Because Imagestream will have it ready May 1st, we went with their box > > just > > to have something that works now has been tested with the FBI. > > > > I'd just like to feel that the company who many of us support heavily > > should > > listen to and support its customers better. > > > > > > > > I've seen your posts and am well aware that one can capture all traffic > > via > > mirror port and hand the whole shebang over to the LEA, or we can spend > > hours wading through it and massaging data (which I think might cause it > > to > > be tainted). We've probably all captured users' traffic before and > > probably > > all know how to run Ethereal. > > > > > > > > I'd just like to see an accepted method that doesn't take an abundance > > of > > time to institute and maintain. > > > > > > > > I'm curious- do you have a solution, working now, that uses the hardware > > you > > mention and OpenCALEA to deliver a product that will be accepted by law > > enforcement, or are you just talking concepts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:55 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik's (lame) answer to CALEA as of 4/23 > > > > > > > > Why is that lame? I don't see where this is Mikrotik's problem or issue. > > > > I'm going to keep saying this over and over and over (started over a > > year > > ago). Use a smart ethernet switch and mirror your main internet > > connection > > to a box that can capture the traffic. Then use something like openCalea > > (www.opencalea.org). Even if you have to buy a switch, a box to run the > > software, etc. you are less than $500 total. If you have multiple NOC's, > > $500 per location is cheap. > > > > Travis > > Microserv > > > > ralph wrote: > > > > I asked: > > > > > > > > I have 3 of your licensed routers (level 4) When do you plan to > > release a version of RouterOS that is CALEA compliant? > > > > Thank You > > > > > > > > > > They Replied: > > > > Hello, > > > > It already is, you simply have to enable sniffer of all traffic, and > > store > > the raw data on a server that captures it. You can also use smart > > switches > > that can mirror ports to a capturing server. See discussions on our > > forum on > > this topic. > > > > Regards, > > Normunds > > -- > > Come to MikroTik User Meetings > > - April 28th, Abuja, NIGERIA > > - May 31st - June 1st, Orlando, USA > > http://mum.mikrotik.com > > > > > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.9/773 - Release Date: 4/22/2007 8:18 PM > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
