Then you know and understand the  value of selectivity and what clean
transmitters are.   There's "good enough" to get certified, and then there's
"good" and "better" and "excellent" and I'd like to see us have the
information and be able to lean on the manufacturers to clean up their acts.
There is a wide gulf between "certifieable" and "very good".    An aweful
lot of manufacturers are playing the "power" race, which I don't like, I
wish they were trying to complete on all the RF qualities of their
equipment.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] was School WiFi , about technical values.


> I am a ham and I have been for 48 years. I've also held an FCC
> Commercial License for 28 years. Without my ham experience, I doubt that
> I would have been able to transition into the license-free wireless
> industry in 1993 - which was before any WISPs even existed. My years of
> ham experience made the transition relatively easy. I recommend that all
> WISP operators consider getting their ham licenses which, BTW no longer
> require any Morse Code tests.
>
> jack
>
>
> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
> > You a HAM operator, Jack?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] was School WiFi , about technical values.
> >
> >
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >> Certification verifies that the signals conducted into the power line
> >> and the signals radiated into the air from a wireless system are clean
> >> and that they do not exceed the power limits. Minimizing self
> >> interference is primarily a function of good network design techniques.
> >> This is outside the scope of FCC certification because, even with
> >> certified equipment, it is easy for an uninformed person to deploy a
> >> network that interferes with itself and with other networks.
> >>
> >> To motivate manufacturers, let them know you want to buy only certified
> >> systems from them.
> >>
> >> jack
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Koskenmaki wrote:
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:05 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] was School WiFi , about technical values.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> See comment inline, near end of post.
> >>>> Wrong. Certification DOES test for out of band emissions; it also
tests
> >>>> for out of channel emissions. It does not test for receiver
selectivity
> >>>> because that is not a characteristic that will mess up the band. Part
> > 15
> >>>> certification deals primarily with dirty transmitted signals, not
poor
> >>>> receivers.
> >>>>             jack
> >>>>
> >>> Well, I should have been more clear.   Yes, there are tests and
certain
> >>> limits.   Just being "good enough" isn't what I was wanting.  I'd like
> > the
> >>> best stuff, because doing so means you minimize self interference,
etc.
> >>>
> >
> -- 
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