I would agree... the cell phone companies will dominate the roaming market. The only advantage right now in Rexburg is the limited speeds provided by the cell companies... they are probably closer to 150kbps, and are more expensive (around $50-$60/month for unlimited). BridgeMAXX is at $39.95 for "up to 2meg"... which is really 300kbps.

It will be interesting to see how things play out. We had one business customer switch from us to them, and then call back a week later to switch back. :)

For me, it's like VoIP at home. I have a solid 10Mbps connection at home with 4-5ms latency to our fiber backbone, but I absolutely HATE talking on a VoIP line (at any location from any provider). I could save $10/month by switching from Qwest to VoIP. Is it worth $10/month to possibly not have a phone when the power goes out? How about a wind storm moves the antenna? How about 911 issues? How about crap voice quality?

Bottom line, as always, you get what you pay for... :)

Travis
Microserv

Brad Belton wrote:
Hello Travis,

Well now, this really doesn't come as any surprise, does it?  <grin>

I can easily get those speeds driving along nearly any interstate in the
country at 80MPH with my Sprint Data Card.

Again, the cellular providers will dominate the mobile user market if only
simply because they have the coverage.  Why would someone signup for
BridgeMAXX (with a fraction of a fraction coverage area) for equal or in
this case quite a bit slower access as compared to any of today's cellular
provider data networks?

Reminds me of the Sprint commercial where they are comparing coverage areas:
 
Client	Sprint	BridgeMAXX

Denver?	Yes.		Nope.
Nashville?	Yes.		Nope.
Boston?	Yes.		Nope.  Wait, what was that again?  Boston?  Oh,
nope.
Vegas?	Yes.		YES!, err I mean nope, but we have limited coverage
in Rexburg!  lol


Best,


Brad




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: video of news segment in Idaho about a new
localWiMAX service

Brad,

I received our modem from BridgeMAXX and tested on Thursday last week. 
We were located about 1 mile from their tower in Rexburg, Idaho. We had 
full signal (all lights on top of the modem) while indoor.

We ran several speed tests to Salt Lake City and Seattle. We purchased 
their "up to 2meg" service and the speed tests (using Speedtest.net, 
which has been very accurate on our test cable connection and test DSL 
connection) showed an average of 300kbps download and 450kbps upload. 
This was during the middle of the day (when most people are probably not 
using the service).

Loading web pages was almost painful however... espn.com took almost 15 
seconds to completely load. :(

Travis
Microserv

Brad Belton wrote:
  
Kinda funny.the video says it delivered "perfect service" in the park
    
while
  
only pulling up about a third of the www.localnews8.com website over
    
several
  
seconds.  Now compare that video to pulling up www.localnews8.com
    
yourself.
  
It leaves quite a bit to be desired when comparing "broadband" services.  

 

My Sprint Data card pulls up the website faster and works ANYWHERE I have
Sprint service in the USA.  Why would I choose a mobile broadband service
that only works in a couple cities?

 

Just another hyped story relating to a service that will over commit and
underperform resulting in yet another black-eye for the wireless data
industry.  This reminds me of the Ricochet service I subscribed to years
    
ago
  
before they went belly up.  Worked fair to ok in some areas, but was
    
quickly
  
overshadowed by the cellular industry guys who really know how to make
mobile Internet work.

 

Have to admit though it was a great plug for Alvarion!

 

Best,

 

 

Brad

 

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: video of news segment in Idaho about a new
localWiMAX service

 

Patrick,

DBC purchased an existing company (Teton Wireless) that was using their
2.5ghz license for Television and internet service. They started 10 years
ago with just TV and added internet about 3-4 years ago. So, technically
they are not a "start-up" as they purchased an existing business and
license.

They also didn't raise money, but rather sold another business (cellular I
believe) and used that money to buy this business. They are in the game
    
for
  
the short-haul, trying to get as many customers as possible with the full
intent to sell it off.

And I'm not sure I really need a lecture on the "I can" model... having
started a WISP in 1997 from scratch (no outside investors, no outside
    
money)
  
and now with over 4,000 subs in the air, over 500 DSL customers, fiber
customers, dedicated p2p customers, etc. I think I understand how it
    
works.
  
We started building our own DOS based routers with WaveLan 900mhz ISA
    
cards
  
back in 1997, when there was NOTHING on the market that was cost effective
to make this business model work. The dot-bomb crash had ZERO affect on
    
our
  
business and we continue to grow every year.

My point to the original email was you can't just stick an AP in the air
    
and
  
think you are going to do "truckless" installs with roaming clients like
    
the
  
video clip pictured. With millions of dollars, yes it can be done... but
    
not
  
otherwise.

Travis
Microserv

Patrick Leary wrote: 

DBC uses 2.5 GHz. They did not exist as an operator one year ago. They
are a start-up that raised money. Nothing prevents WISPs from doing this
sort of thing too Travis and I know a few WISPs who are in fact doing
this very thing.
 
Travis, anyone can provide tons of reasons why something can't be done,
but someone always comes along who says "I can" and they do. It is that
group of people who dare who become the next set of millionaires.
 
As for the model, the DBC guys are pros who have been around the block.
They deployed several thousand unlicensed CPEs a few years back in
another company. It is not like they are just winging it. And in any
event, chances are a guy like this gets bought out a few years from now
for a good-sized multiple of the original investment.
 
Also, WISPs need to understand that the financial world considers
licensed band leases as assets, not expenses. Why do you think a company
like Clearwire that is losing money hand over fist has a $3.5B
valuation? It is because of the value of their licensed holdings
primarily.
 
 
Patrick Leary
AVP, Market Development
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World
Chicago, September 25-27
Booth #409
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: video of news segment in Idaho about a new
localWiMAX service
 
Everyone should realize this is a licensed frequency (2.3ghz?) and that 
the base stations are very expensive.
 
So, if you have a few million dollars (I think they actually paid $7 
million for the license in our area about 10 years ago, with a 
population of 150,000 people) and want to spend a few more million for 
AP's and CPE's, you should be able to breakeven in about 1,000 years. ;)
 
Travis
Microserv
 
Patrick Leary wrote:
  

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6fag7cy2Nr4
 
Our customer, Digital Bridge Communications (DBC), sent this video to
    

me
  

today after it recently appeared on the local news. Nice piece,
especially since it was unsolicited. It is from an ABC news affiliate
    

in
  

Idaho. DBC calls the service BridgeMAXX.
 
Patrick
Alvarion
 
 
 
 
 
    

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