Does Airspan stuff work these days? I've only heard horror stories. On 10/1/07, Jeffrey Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Patrick, > > I disagree, as most of the network operators, internationally > that I have spoken with have stated that they currently have "no > interest" in 802.16 > and are just looking for standards based solutions that utilize > 802.16a-2004 chipsets. > They just want QOS capable, scalable, FIXED BROADBAND WIRELESS ACCESS. > > In the US there are very LIMITED # of providers than have access to > licensed > 2 ghz bands, so i don't understand clearly why the 2ghz profile would > matter > as much, since you literally have 2 players in that space, now > actually one, xohm. > > not misleading fluff, Airspan for example is shipping TODAY 802.16-2004 > compliant ( not wimax compliant, not that it matters considering > there is > no wimax interop for QOS, so really who cares anyways ) solutions in > 1.4, 2.3, 2.5, 3.3-37, 5.4, 4.9, and 5.8ghz bands. > > - > > Jeff > > On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Patrick Leary wrote: > > > Jeff, > > > > That would be stretching to the extreme since the simple point of fact > > is that there is no WiMAX Forum profile for the AWS bands. No profile > > means no ecosystem. No ecosystem means no chips and no devices in > > scale > > or interoperability between suppliers. > > > > Folks, right now there is only one profile in WiMAX that matters and > > these are the ones based on 802.16e-2005 in 2.3, 2.5 and 3.5 GHz > > ranges. > > Those are the only bands for which the ecosystem is revolving and > > evolving right now. Other may be added at some point, but right now > > anything else is misleading fluff. > > > > Patrick Leary > > AVP, Market Development > > Alvarion, Inc. > > o: 650.314.2628 > > c: 760.580.0080 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Jeffrey Thomas > > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:17 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > > > > Scriv, > > > > I know of 2 MFR's that are SHIPPING wimax in your band you hold > > licenses for. hit me offlist. > > > > tks, > > > > Jeff > > > > On Aug 23, 2007, at 8:12 PM, John Scrivner wrote: > > > >> So Patrick, if an operator has an interest in launching WiMAX using > >> BreezeMax will Alvarion help them find and acquire access to a > >> license in the market they are looking to launch? I know that is > >> not your area of expertise but I also know that other competitive > >> vendors are doing just this type of work to help operators get in > >> the game. > >> > >> If not I know that Kris Twomey and Stephen Coran are both capable > >> of helping in this process. I am working on this myself. > >> > >> It would be nice if an AWS profile were being established for WiMAX > >> (since I have a license in this band which NOBODY has done anything > >> with yet). I guess it will happen once someone steps up and places > >> a BIG order! :-) > >> Scriv > >> > >> > >> Patrick Leary wrote: > >>> The way, the link to the Secondary Market specific search is: > >>> http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLease.jsp > >>> > >>> " Spectrum Lease Search > >>> > >>> A new ULS feature to search for spectrum leases, including > >>> searches on > >>> fields unique to leasing. The spectrum lease search results page is > >>> standard ULS format with a link to lease details. The spectrum lease > >>> detail page, also standard ULS format, is similar to license > >>> detail in > >>> that the lease information is displayed in tabs such as Main, Admin, > >>> Technical Data, and Market." > >>> > >>> Patrick Leary > >>> AVP, Market Development > >>> Alvarion, Inc. > >>> o: 650.314.2628 > >>> c: 760.580.0080 > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World > >>> Chicago, September 25-27 > >>> Booth #409 > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Patrick Leary > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:30 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> Yes and the FCC site has a specific search feature just for these > >>> things > >>> and refers to this activity as "Secondary Markets." > >>> > >>> Patrick Alvarion > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> Is there a documentation/reporting requirement of EBS spectrum > >>> holders > >>> that requires them to report who they leased their spectrum to, > >>> and when/if > >>> they leased it? > >>> In other words, does the FCC search just show the original spectrum > >>> holder (educational insititute) or also the subleasee? > >>> > >>> Tom DeReggi > >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Leary" > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:43 PM > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> > >>> The band generally called "2.5" refers to an almost 200 MHz > >>> collection > >>> of spectrum divided up about 60% as non-profit "EBS" (educational > >>> broadband service) spectrum and 40% commercially auctioned "BRS" > >>> (broadband radio service) spectrum. These were formerly called ITFS > >>> (instructional fixed television service) and MMDS (multimedia > >>> distribution service). The original allocation was for one-way > >>> cable, > >>> but over the past years the band has been re-configured for > >>> broadband > >>> service. > >>> > >>> In any one area a variety of commercial and non-profits have various > >>> channels. The FCC allows the non-profits (including the schools you > >>> refer to) to sublet the spectrum to commercial operators. > >>> > >>> The 2.3 range is called "WCS" (wireless communications services) > >>> and is > >>> different than the 2.5, both in terms of typical available channel > >>> sizes > >>> and technical rules. > >>> > >>> BellSouth, as part of the AT&T acquisition thereof, was required > >>> by the > >>> feds to sell its stake in the commercial 2.5 GHz bands (principally > >>> around Florida and New Orleans). Clearwire bought these assets for > >>> $300 > >>> million a few months back. > >>> > >>> - Patrick > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:52 PM > >>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It looks as though BellSouth and Nextel have the 2.3 and Nextel > >>> has the > >>> 2.5. > >>> I thought they set aside some of those frequencies for schools? > >>> Can the > >>> schools still have the license along with the big guys? > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Patrick Leary > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:18 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> > >>> That's a very simple process Scottie, which is achieved using the > >>> FCC > >>> Web > >>> site. From the home page of www.fcc.gov, go to the Wireless > >>> Telecommunications Bureau area (choice on the right, scrolled down a > >>> tad), > >>> then go to License Search (also a choice on the right). > >>> Specifically, go > >>> here: http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp > >>> > >>> On this page I prefer using the "Specialized" search category. > >>> Pick one > >>> and > >>> fill in as few fields as you want. Enter more fields to narrow, etc. > >>> This > >>> will pull up records and each of those records allows you to drill > >>> down > >>> further to get maps, contact info, etc. > >>> > >>> - Patrick > >>> Alvarion > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:56 PM > >>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> How can I find out who owns it in my area...I think the school > >>> system > >>> still > >>> has it, but not sure. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Patrick Leary > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:28 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> > >>> Scottie, > >>> > >>> If you think the base station is expensive, then you'd pass out > >>> knowing > >>> how > >>> much it'd cost you to get access to just 12 MHz of either set of > >>> spectrum > >>> even in a rural market. Put it this way, a big city would carry a > >>> price > >>> tag > >>> well into 8 digits. > >>> > >>> - Patrick > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Scottie Arnett > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:19 PM > >>> To: 'WISPA General List' > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> "Maybe a very rough number for a fixed/nomadic type base station > >>> (360 > >>> degrees) might be around $40k." > >>> > >>> WOW! I think I will stick with unlicensed for now. The idea of > >>> customer > >>> provided CPE is alluring, but its not that tempting for me. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>> Behalf Of Patrick Leary > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:46 PM > >>> To: WISPA General List > >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum > >>> > >>> > >>> We do, and have been commercially selling 802.16e (mobile-ready > >>> WiMAX) - > >>> called BreezeMAX 2300 and BreezeMAX 2500 all through this year. > >>> > >>> In the licensed pmp space, especially for .16e systems, the > >>> answer of > >>> "average cost of AP and CPE" is not so simple. There are many > >>> types of > >>> "CPE" > >>> and there really is no "AP." You have complex base station > >>> infrastructures > >>> in these bands, with multiple levels of diversity. Maybe a very > >>> rough > >>> number > >>> for a fixed/nomadic type base station (360 degrees) might be around > >>> $40k. > >>> For fixed outdoor CPE, use the numbers you are used to today for > >>> quality > >>> CPE. For indoor self-install CPE SIM-card based, bought at a retail > >>> outlet > >>> or mailed by the operator), a rough number might be $250ish today > >>> driving > >>> lower. PCMCIA cards are around the corner and will be obviously much > >>> cheaper. Embedded devices, starting with laptops, are maybe less > >>> than a > >>> year > >>> away for early versions. Embedded consumer devices will come as > >>> early as > >>> late 2008 and will be produced in decent volumes by 2010. > >>> > >>> Base stations to support the mobile "personal broadband" devices > >>> will be > >>> require the addition of tons of things, like ASN gateways, AAA > >>> servers, > >>> etc. > >>> > >>> Patrick > >>> Alvarion > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > > > >> ---------- > >> > >> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th > >> 2007 at ISPCON ** > >> ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA > >> www.ispcon.com ** > >> ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** > >> ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available til August 31 ** > >> ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http:// > >> www.ispcon.com/register.php ** > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> - > > > >> ---------- > >> WISPA Wants You! 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