They are using Sandvine to do it: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18323368-Comcast-is-using-Sandvine-to-manage-P2P-Connections
Here is a list of many USA ISP's shaping them: http://www.azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs#United_States_of_America Someone a while back posted a link on how to get around it? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:26:03 -0400 >In all fairness... This thread is not about whether it is right or wrong to >block p2p. We probably all agree how harmful p2p traffic can be. >Its essential to try and block it. > >The unsure part is.... What is an ethical way to block it. > >An ISP may have the right to define what goes accross its network, but an >ISP does not have the right to re-write the constitution or federal law, on >their own. >And Competition laws, Privacy laws, Consumer Laws, and Identity Laws are >things that exist. Just like Calea... the issue is "privacy" not >necessarilly whether we feel its god or bad to help our country's law >enforcement. It will be interesting to see how these topics play out. But >more so how large providers will hide behind these excuses "Protecting the >Performance of their network" to leverage their way around Network >Neutrality issues, for their competitive advantage. > >Tom DeReggi >RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:51 PM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Look how ComCast deals with P2P > > >> Scottie Arnett wrote: >> >>> Forgot to mention...if BT clients would not come with deafult connections >>> set at 500 to 1000, I might allow it to. That is where it kills our >>> equipment...the connections, not the bandwidth. >> >> Concur, and THAT is why I limit p2p traffic on my network. >> >> Frankly, I couldn't care less what my customers are downloading, only how >> they're downloading it. >> >> We all know that some really big percentage of p2p traffic is the sharing >> of copyrighted material that may be illegal to share, but saying that's >> the reason for throttling p2p traffic is probably pretty thorny, from a >> legal standpoint. Explaining it in technical terms (all these connections >> kills the tower and annoys other users) is safer, and as a bonus is >> completely true. It's actually more effective on many of my customers, who >> suddenly realize that the folks being affected by their selfish p2p >> downloads are friends and neighbors. Psychology, used correctly, can be >> just as effective as a Packeteer. >> >> David Smith >> MVN.net >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at >> ISPCON ** >> ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** >> ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** >> ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** >> ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at >> http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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