*nods*

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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80Ghz does have slightly better oxygen absorbance characteristics, so it can go about 25% farther. The purpose for 80Ghz in my mind is licensed protection. Because its licensed, you can find out who else in town has deployed, to rule out interference.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
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I'd go 80 GHz over 60 GHz any day...  better RF performance.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake VanDewater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Has anyone worked with the 80GHz licensed or 60GHz unlicensed gear from BridgeWave? They claim to be able to get the license work done pretty cheap in roughly 5 days.

Thoughts?



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:47:13 -0600

Hello Cameron,

As good as Alvarion gear is or may be, it is still best effort gear and not committed rate. Many factors will play into what an end user will actually
be able to produce across Alvarion gear.

If you are looking for a committed rate backhaul you need to look at the
Trango GigaLINK gear again. Completely different class of hardware than the VL backhaul products. Yes, it will cost more, but the saying holds true; you get what you pay for. Your 3mile link is a cake walk for 18GHz and if you have the tower space for 6' antennas the 6GHz GigaLINK is perfect for
your 20 mile link.

BTW Ralph, our tests on the bench with VL between two MikroTik 3GHz routers was decent in HDX. Problem we saw was went you started pushing data heavily in both directions the link all but fell apart. Not what you need to have
happen on a critical backhaul.  <grin>

Best,


Brad


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:12 PM
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Funny you should ask. I tested a B-100 going 500 feet with Qcheck a couple
of days ago and got only 38 Mb.
I'm not sure if Qcheck reads out correctly or if I have to double it- I was
in a hurry.




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:12 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

Hello all,

I am in the need of upgrading some backhauls. We are currently using
Alvarion AUVL units with a SU-54-BD. According to Alvarion, this link is
only capable of 16mbit each way (Alvarion, please call it a 32mbit radio.)
We have looked into results on users who use Alvarion B100, Trango Link
45, etc..

We are open to all options...As long is it works very well. The link is
about 3 miles, but we have another link that is causing the need for the
upgrade that is about 20 miles.

Trango has licensed gear in the 6ghz and 18ghz line that is very
impressive, but just too expensive for us right now.

I would like to know if people are using B100 what is the up/down max
throughput that you have seen? 50/50? etc.. Are you running VoIP over
this? Alvarion claims 1000 concurrent calls over this link, i'm sure many
of you have not even dented this number.

I am growing to be a big fan of Trango, but have been well, but their
packet per seconds is a lot less than Alvarion B gear at almost 40,000
compared to trango at around 10,000.

Thanks,

I man in dire need of a lot of bandwidth, distance and no spectrum to put
it....

-Cameron



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