I agree. A number of years back Part-15 attempted to negotiate this type effort with Crown Castle. I never really learned why the effort fell through. Its interesting now that Crown Castle, has bought out some of the other larger players, and has much less competition to justify the need to make special deals. However, dealing direct with Telco Owned towers, is a different game than negotiating with Managed towers that lease to telcos. It can be complicated because of the many different inconsistent ways a tower may be owned. Who's authorized for decissions on one tower in the portfolio may be different than another.
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Ryan Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cell Company Towers >I think this is where WISPA really needs to come in. Why are we not > negotiating contracts with the cell companies that benefit ALL WISPA > members? > > Cell companies do it.... why can't we, as an association do it? > > just my $0.0000000000001 worth. > > > ryan > On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > >> On a side note... I generally pay less to be on a cell tower than I >> do to >> pay to be on a commercial building roof top of equivellent height. >> >> Cell Towers- More expensive to climb and mainteain, there fore less >> valuable >> Cell Towers- Dont have office space tenants, there fore only valued >> for the >> value of the market around, not also the market within. >> Cell Towers- Cell tower prospects, negotiate lowest dollar possible, >> because >> of volume, and know exactly what it costs. >> Cell Towers- are taller allowing for more channel re-use through >> verticle >> speration. >> >> What Cell Towers care about the most is to do leases that do not >> restrict >> them from larger opportunities with larger prospects, and does not >> piss off >> their larger customers. If you can submit a plan, that shows renting >> to you >> is just extra income, without risk to their existing contracts and >> prospects, you might be able to get them to jump. The best way to >> do it is >> to argue the trutgh, which is that unlicensed spectrum is slop >> spectrum, the >> big boys don't want it, and it would never work for their business >> models. >> The community service value of supporting local companies is far >> greater >> than the risk of renting to you. >> >> What we are learning is.... Can we trust any tower leasor? >> Financially, will >> we be able to enforce a contract? Can we risk being help hostage by >> renting >> jsut one tower? Do we really need that tower that we thought was so >> valuable? Thos questions ahve to be answered. We believe the best >> answer is >> to not rely on just one. The best way to do that is to get the right >> price >> so you can afford to have more. If you don;t get the price, its >> usually not >> worth the risk. Send them a copy of the front page of one of your >> agreements >> with their competitors. It amazing how quickly they take you >> seriously when >> their pride relizes you are good enough for their competition. >> At minimum it sparks their interest, to at least take your phone >> call, and >> listen to your pitch to consider it. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cell Company Towers >> >> >>> you can't afford it >>> >>> JohnnyO >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:29 PM >>> Subject: [WISPA] Cell Company Towers >>> >>> >>>> Has anyone worked with a cell company for collocation on THEIR >>>> towers? >>>> IE: AT&T, T-Mobile, US Cellular, etc. Not interested in hearing >>>> about >>>> American Tower, GTP, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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