You can always use reservations to give a user the same IP each time even 
though they are getting it via DHCP.  If you ever have to re-number your 
whole network without DHCP you may become a convert.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users


> Most customers will be happy with Dynamic DHCP whereby a domain name will
> always fine their server.
>
> If you explain that, especially if you describe the elaborate resolutions
> that are available to them via Dynamic DHCP including blocks and multiple
> servers, won't they be satisfied?
>
> . . . J o n a t h a n
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Eric Rogers
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:32 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users
>
> If the default for most routers is DHCP, then give it a private block and
> then D-NAT all port 80 traffic to one of your servers and give them a
> spash-page that says..."Your router lost its' configuration.  Here are
> instructions of how to reset it."
>
> Don't forget, the default for most routers' wireless is wide-open.  If you
> lock them out by default...it is in both of your interests to get it set
> back up and secure.  I'll spend the extra 15-20 minutes to walk them 
> through
> a configuration so their neighbor has to pay for a connection.
>
> Eric
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:31 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users
>
> The biggest cost in using Static IP is after support. Thinks liek Linksys
> routers are notorious for loosing their configurations.
> When teh configuration is lost, your on the phone for an hour walking your
> customer through how to enter the IP back in.
> MOst commodity routers default to DHCP, so if it loses its config, 
> rebooting
> will still get it a working IP with out a phone call for reconfiguration.
> However, we only use Public Static IPs. We typically charge more for our
>
> service and justify the higher charge because of added benefits such as
> Static IP benefits. We are willing to spend the time.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Langseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users
>
>
>> There are things like looking at the customer base.
>>
>> 1) are they likely to need incoming connections  ( This is mainly for
>> businesses )
>> 2) are they likely to get a worm and have it start spamming ( I hate
>> trying to track down a spammy machine behind NAT ... its not hard just
>> annoying)
>> 3) are they going to have problems with double NAT, the customers
>> router will be doing nat also.  Certain system do not handle that very
>> nicely
>>
>> Frankly I hate using Private IPs for customers at all,  I also
>> strongly dislike not doing DHCP unless the customer is paying for that
>> static.
>> Static IP addressing is a PITA if you have to renumber,  obivously
>> with privates that problem is largely gone.
>>
>> Depending on where you are doing your NAT,  I would suggest if you go
>> that route to do it at your Head End, not at your edge routers.  That
>> way you can implement one of the common IDS/IPS systems to find
>> problem customers (virus, etc) .
>>
>> Not doing DHCP, if you plan on being profitable, imo, is also a major
>> mistake.  You will end up consuming 10+ minutes of your install techs
>> and CSRs time per install.
>>
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Ugo Bellavance wrote:
>>
>>> Tom DeReggi wrote:
>>>> whether to give private or public address has nothing to do with
>>>> cost.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, what are the thing to consider exactly?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ugo Bellavance
>>>
>>>
>>>
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