The real problem is the number of connections.   One client opening up 
300-400 connections is going to cause all kinds of problems.   Being 
able to limit connections is a pretty important item to be able to 
handle on a wireless network.

Matt Larsen
Vistabeam.com

Mike Hammett wrote:
> and I forgot to say what I was initially going to say...
>
> You may need better APs.  I have 30+ customers on a single tower with more 
> than one client running P2P applications (including BitTorrent) and 
> everything works just fine.  That said, my AP is a 4-radio 4-sector AP that 
> is a PC running Mikrotik.
>
>
> ----------
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Uh-Oh, " they are ready to discipline Internet service 
> providers"
>
>
>   
>>> I see this as a good thing.  We don't really care what our users do with
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> bandwidth they buy from us as long as it's legal.  Bandwidth hungry
>>>       
>> applications are good for our model as the more they need the more they
>> buy.
>>     
>>> I don't see that as a bad thing for our bottom line!
>>>       
>> Speak for yourself.
>>
>> (By the way, I am speaking for myself, not for my boss, my employer, WISPA
>> itself for whom I do occasional work, or anyone else. This is always the
>> case, but I feel especially compelled to mention it here.)
>>
>> The day a legislature or court orders me to stop shaping p2p traffic, I'll
>> dust off my resume, because the network will melt shortly thereafter,
>> beyond my ability to repair.
>>
>> The inexpensive last-mile gear many smaller wireless operators use don't
>> respond well to p2p traffic. Towers with fifty customers can be brought to
>> their knees by ONE customer with an encrypted BitTorrent client, or
>> Limewire, or other p2p software.
>>
>> (Every time this subject comes up, there's a bunch of "just build out your
>> network to handle the load durrrr" punters. As that isn't always feasible,
>> given the limitations of small company budgets and the technology
>> available within said budgets, let's just assume I don't have millions of
>> dollars handy to do so.)
>>
>> My sole concern is keeping my network running as well as possible, given
>> the limits of the budget and technology at my disposal. I don't care what
>> you're downloading, and if I had a choice I wouldn't care about how you're
>> downloading it. I don't even care whether it's for "legal" use. (And let's
>> not kid ourselves on that point.)
>>
>> Unfortunately, as near as I can tell, the folks making these edicts aren't
>> making the distinction between social and technical reasons for traffic
>> shaping.
>>
>> David Smith
>>
>>
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