Just a side note, for quick laptop scan, NetStumbler was quick and easy, but
no Vista support, or 64 bit XP support,  finally Meta Geek has an open
source application called Inssider.  This is great for setting routers in a
crowed environment

http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:00 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES


They were supposed to let me know when they had the connectorized version!!!

I want one of those.  It's not much but it would be great for quick peeks at

what's going on and a guy could have it with him all of the time.

I almost bought a yellowjacket.  One of those would be great for the 
multipath detection functions.  I'm sure I ran into that last night.  Never 
did get the customer working right, only one pine tree in the way of a 3 
block path!  Great signal, 80 to 100% packet loss.  Strange.

If I'd have had a yellow jacket I'd have been able to check for interference

and multipath.  But the spectrum analyzer in it isn't as good as the 
bumblebee and it does fewer bands.

laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
42846865 (icq)                                    WISP Operator since 1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jenco Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES


> Please keep us posted on it - I have been wanting one since the day 
> they came out.  I have also been thinking about trying one of these: 
> http://www.metageek.net/products/wi-spy24x although it is nowhere near 
> as full featured.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 < 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I just got a BumbleBee Tablet.  With 2 day shipping it was almost 
>> $5k.  It's a well laid out kit, nicely done.  I'm not sure I like the 
>> unit yet but It's
>> certainly a lot easier to use and figure out than my Advantest!
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)                                    WISP Operator since
>> 1999!
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>  Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES
>>
>>
>> > That's exactly what I was looking for Brad. Thanks for the link.
>> >
>> > Can you tell me how much that puppy costs???
>> >
>> > Mac
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> On
>> >> Behalf Of Jenco Wireless
>> >> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:39 AM
>> >> To: WISPA General List
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bvsystems.com/Products/Power/Butterfly/butterfly.htm
>> >>
>> >> Worth every penny.  I have tested one or two of the R52H cards.  
>> >> The power levels across the frequencies and bands is very 
>> >> impressive as far as how
>> >> even they are.  I will warn you - if you mess with (turn up) the power
>> >> settings you WILL blow them up - almost instantly.  They are set to 
>> >> run
>> >> as
>> >> high as they can with the default settings in MT - also - you really
>> >> need to
>> >> never ever power one on if you don't have an antenna or terminal
>> >> resistor
>> >> hooked up.  These cards put out more power on 5GHz than the Senao 
>> >> 8602H
>> >> or S
>> >> models.  I would recommend getting one of these meters and setting the
>> >> Tx
>> >> down a dB or two for "safety" (make sure you check the performance) -
>> >> you
>> >> need the meter becaust the default settings in MT don't always match -
>> >> although I believe they are real close on these cards.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Brad Hagstrom
>> >> (Jenco Wireless, LLC)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I just got these twenty in this morning - 2nd day air from 
>> >> > Pasadena networks too!!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > CRAP! J
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Mac
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> On
>> >> > Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:37 AM
>> >> >  To: WISPA General List
>> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > These came from Pasadena Networks (wlanparts.com) and I reported 
>> >> > it.
>> >> He
>> >> > claims nobody else has said anything (yet).
>> >> >
>> >> > Travis
>> >> > Microserv
>> >> >
>> >> > Mac Dearman wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks Travis!
>> >> >
>> >> >  Yeah - that's how we have been testing them too before we take 
>> >> > them
>> >> out
>> >> > and hang them on a tower. I just got twenty more in this morning 
>> >> > and
>> >> about
>> >> > to test them. The last batch of twenty a couple weeks ago caught 
>> >> > us
>> >> off
>> >> > guard and we built out two new tower sites only to realize that
>> >> hardly
>> >> > nothing in 5.xGHz worked or would make link.
>> >> >
>> >> > Can I ask if you told your supplier about this and when? I 
>> >> > wonder if
>> >> we
>> >> > are
>> >> > buying from the same place. Wisp-router???
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Mac
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> On
>> >> > Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:05 AM
>> >> > To: WISPA General List
>> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bumblebee???? R52H WOES
>> >> >
>> >> > Mac,
>> >> >
>> >> > The last shipment of R52H cards we got (15 total), 11 of them 
>> >> > were
>> >> bad.
>> >> > The TX power was down 20db.
>> >> >
>> >> > We tested them by setting up an AP with just a 3ft LMR cable
>> >> > attached
>> >> > and connecting to it in the office. When we would go into the Signal
>> >> > section for the connection, one side would be down 20-25db from the
>> >> > other. :(
>> >> >
>> >> > Travis
>> >> > Microserv
>> >> >
>> >> > Mac Dearman wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  Someone on list a while back posted a device they were using to
>> >> > test
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > their
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > radios and the signal they were emitting. What was that device 
>> >> > name
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > and
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > price?
>> >> >
>> >> >  Some of these R52H radios seem to be killing me. I am seeing 
>> >> > all
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > kinds of
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > weird issues like deafness or being mute. I have talked to one 
>> >> > other
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > person
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > this morning that has seen multiple failures on these radios (as 
>> >> > I
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > have)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > even though no one seems to be reporting these problems to my
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > supplier since
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > they claim they haven't heard of any issues. I am sure my 
>> >> > supplier
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > will
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > gladly replace these radios, but before I ship them back (even
>> >> > though
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I know
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > they are defective) I would love to be able to test them.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks folks,
>> >> > Mac
>> >> >
>> >> >
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