I do believe that with the HUGE push for AT&T with U-Verse is to have multiple revenue streams on one connection, and to break the sharing agreements. Now they can say... "It is too expensive to modify our network to allow competition," and "Look at all the fancy gadgets we are GIVING the customer Mr. Senator...We are doing good." That keeps the legislation at bay. Once all competition is gone in 5 - 10 years, they can charge what they want...
Can anyone say Bell system? Now, with all that said, based on the email below, couldn't they pass 802.1q in q tags to be routed outside to individual resellers? I would think that is easier than using IP through ATM with less overhead. I know it is an optimistic thought that the carriers would share...but it is possible. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete] This has been in the making since the FCC's Triennial Review back in 2003. That report basically said if the carrier rolls out fiber (even if it's just to the node), you're SOL. Welcome to Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-Verse. ---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization" <wireless@wispa.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 2:10 AM Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete] >I received this email for assistance from Nick Voth, owner of Easy > Street today. I'm sure there are many wisps who also offer DSL and may > be affected and interested in what the future holds for you. > So I'm passing this along for your benefit and I've included Nick Voth's > email address for your convenience if you want to contact him directly. > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Qwest's DSL plans will make ISP's obsolete > Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:43:20 -0600 > From: Nick Voth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Nick Voth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hello folks, > > I'm an owner of an Internet Service Provider in Denver, Colorado. If you > haven't heard about the new Qwest "Fiber to the Node" product, you need to > pay attention to this message and pass it along to others inside your > company. > > Qwest is currently rolling out a new network that will become their > primary > way of delivering DSL to end users. It is a pure Ethernet based product > and > there is no mechanism yet to allow third party ISP's, (other than MSN), to > provide service. > > We are already losing customers to it in Denver and there's no end in > sight. > It's a stated goal to make this product eventually replace the ATM based > systems that we all know and enjoy. If nothing changes to allow other > Internet providers to utilize the network, we will all be out of the DSL > business or be forced to resell Qwest.net service. > > Here are the main problems we see as a third party ISP with losing control > over the customer's data: > > - No control over IP space at all > - No IP routing control > - No Quality of Service for services like VPN or VoIP > - No ability to monitor usage for bandwidth abuse, etc. > - No ability to monitor traffic for viruses, attacks, etc. > - No troubleshooting capabilities for network issues > - No troubleshooting of connection troubles (authentication, etc.) > - No control over rDNS (Reverse DNS for IP addresses) > - No customer choice! (This will definitely drive customers to Comcast) > - No margins for ISP's after circuit and Qwest.net fees (in reseller > model) > - Qwest.net not invisible even in wholesale environment because of IP's > > In short, this product will be a catastrophe to all third party ISP's > because it will eventually put us out of business. > > I urge you to contact your Qwest representatives as soon as possible and > make it clear to them how important this is. Here is a list of the most > important players, (as far as I can tell): > > Larry Canavan (not in a position to help, but a really nice guy) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Molly Clemen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 612-664-4501 - Office > 612-807-7645 - Cell > > Matt Rotter > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I understand these are the current product managers: > > Travis Leo > 303-308-5284 > > Frank Simonson > 303-308-5040 > > Also, make sure to participate in any conference call to ISP's that may be > coming up. If we don't make our voices heard, Qwest will make their > decisions without us. > > Sincerely, > > -Nick Voth > > ----------------------------- > Nick Voth > President > E Street Communications > http://www.estreet.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 303-584-0640 x 1001 > ----------------------------- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- WISPA Wants You! 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