>"kinking" cat 5 doesn't hurt anything unless you mess up the insulation
"kinking" clearly can damage CAT5 cable. Anytime a wire exceeds its allowable bending radius, it breaks or partially breaks, which can reduce conductivity at that weak point, and possibly even create an "open". The most common way CAT5 wire gets damaged during installation, is via a Kink, that was manhandled to hard to cure. Sure a kink is not a problem if it did not damage the cable inside. And a mild kink, will not. But how does one see inside the cable to see if it was damaged? Either Cable Tester, or just be careful not to damage cable with Kinks when installing it :-) There is a reason that Cat5 patch cables get shipped coiled, and not distrubuted in a narrow figure8 pattern like a PC power supply cord. Go take a patch cable, and wrap it around your elbow and hand, then crease the ends, so that there are multiple Creases at the ends (equivellent to "Kinks"), and now looks like a 1 ft long tube, then unravel it and use it as a patch cable for your file server the next month, and get back to me on whether you think "kinking" effects the reliabilty of a CAT5 cable. PS. Sorry, don't mean to be confrontational. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roger (K8RI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <wireless@wispa.org>; "Nusrat Jamal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [TowerTalk] LMR-400 LMR-600 Equivalent (and stuff) > Can anyone help these guys out on some Cat 5 questions? > > Also Roger, check out www.shireeninc.com (hope I got that right). Nusrat > Jamal will give you the straight scoop on cables. > > "kinking" cat 5 doesn't hurt anything unless you mess up the insulation in > the process. I've had customers help me with installs and pull too hard > on > the cable not giving me time to straighten it out before it hits something > and kinks. Not at all as critical as coax is. It's great stuff to work > with compared to coax. > > Also, check out these tools if you are working with cat 5. Makes life a > LOT > easier! > http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45?gclid=CI29_YnX2JMCFR4sagod7jJ4Yw > You have to have the special crimper to use those. Makes perfect > connections every single time though! Very nice stuff. > > For a stripper I've not found anything easier or more cost effective than: > http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102881&cp=2032058.2032236.2032310&parentPage=family > > laters, > Marlon > (509) 982-2181 > (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services > 42846865 (icq) WISP Operator since > 1999! > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger (K8RI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Hector Garcia XE2K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Towertalk e-Goups" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rich Hallman - N7TR" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:56 PM > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] LMR-400 LMR-600 Equivalent (and stuff) > > >> Hector Garcia XE2K wrote: >>> Rick >>> >>> tnx for share the info >>> >>> not in the need for Coax but that CAT5 cable looks vy interesting for >>> me >>> at this moment >>> >> I wish I could find a bit more about the "flooded" CAT5e. I really need >> the foam filled outdoor version, but by the reel it's not a bad price. >> OTOH all of mine (not flooded) has been free and through conduit it's >> not been a problem to use although a bear to install. I've kinked more >> than one pull and had to throw it out. Hence the desire for the foam >> filled and the flooded, outdoor comscope might meet that requirement. >> Typical CAT5e is just a hollow plastic tube with 4 twisted pair. One of >> the local contractors has been letting me have "ends" (makes the price >> right) which somethings amount to quite a bit in the easy feeding boxes. >> I need to make two more runs from the shack where the gigabit switch >> sets right next to the 756 Pro. I'll have 2 runs of CAT5e and at least >> 3 runs of RG-6 (possibly 5) in one conduit. Another will have two >> rotator control cables (one is spare for later) and on cable to the >> 6-pack and two for remote antenna switches. I'll also have an >> equivalent conduit run from the shop to the tower. Then there are the >> larger underground conduits from the shop and den to the tower >> containing the coax to the 6-pack as well as the UHF, VHF antennas. I >> plan on doing the switching between the antennas on the big tower and >> the one at the end of the shop in the control box at the base of the >> tower. It'll also switch rotator cable access to the big tower of shop >> tower to either the shop or Den. BTW all my CAT5e runs are custom >> length with me installing the connectors so I don't have a lot of excess >> laying around in the way. >> >> NOTE I hate RHoS compliance. It has cost me several equipment failures >> including a 40" HD TV set today, one mobile rig, and several other >> pieces of equipment. It's cost NASA many problems and even caused >> satellites to fail. Without the lead in solder or plating on circuit >> board the tendency to grow tin whiskers multiplies many fold. Plus it >> doesn't wet the base metal nearly as easy as regular solder. So I guess >> the US isn't the only government or group to over react with knee jerk >> reactions. <sigh> Sorry for the rant, but I think that every time I >> see the words RHoS compliant and think of the failures just I've >> seen. I have nearly a full rull of good solder, I should get another >> while I can still get the stuff. >> >> Lots of plans and work, but I'm getting tired of moving a raft of >> cables, or propping them on stepladders every time I mow between the >> shop and garage. <:-)) >> >> As to the coax, it's supposedly come scope which is supposed to be >> reasonably good. I think I'd still going to order a bunch of Bury Flex >> to use in conjunction with my LMR 400 and 600 even though I do have >> several hundred feet of 600UF. OTOH it looks like I'm going to need to >> order a reel of flooded CAT5e and flooded RG-6 somewhere as I'm running >> low. Each run from the shjack is about 230 feet for the LMR-400 and 600 >> while the RG-6 runs for the TV are nearly 300 each. It doesn't take >> long to go through a 1000 feet of coax which starts to get expensive >> after a while, but cheap coax can be expensive in the long run. >> >> I'm beginning to think it's time to get rid of the two mobiles (Yaesu >> 897D and Icom 7000) along with my Henry 2002A and get another 756 Pro >> for the shop instead of the little rigs. Then get a good dual band >> (cross band repeat capable) like the TM-D700 or 710. I really don't >> know which duobander is best, but "one way"cross band is essential. >> >> 73 >> >> Roger (K8RI - ARRL Life Member) >> www.rogerhalstead.com >> N833R (World's oldest Debonair) >>> other source or coax is >>> http://www.hyperlinktech.com/productfamily.aspx?id=249 >>> >>> the company brand name is like the Jefatech , the commscope need no >>> comments is a vy well know brand >>> Hector >>> >>> Rich Hallman - N7TR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These look like some pretty >>> awesome prices....Not sure of quality >>> though... >>> >>> http://www.shireeninc.com/osc/index.php?cPath=25_48&osCsid=8dd21259d78c7 >>> 7433f2572cc867af5b6 >>> >>> RFC400 500ft $184 >>> RFC400 1000ft $349 >>> >>> RFC600 (LMR600) $.89 ft >>> >>> >>> Rich N7TR >>> ex KI3V, N3AMK, WB3JOV >>> www.n7tr.com >>> Telnet: dxc.n7tr.com N7TR DXCluster >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TowerTalk mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk >>> >>> >>> >>> Hector Garcia XE2K / XF1K >>> Mexicali B.C DM22fp >>> P.O.Box 73 >>> El Centro CA 92244-0073 >>> USA >>> http://www.xe2k.net >>> http://www.dxxe.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> TowerTalk mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TowerTalk mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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