Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents in :)
Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz 1. Spectral efficiency ( 4.85 gross bp/hz ) On a six sector configuration with only 25mhz of spectrum, you can effectively deliver approx 20mb per sector or 120 mb / per pop, 240 mb when all 50 mhz is supported. Support for thousands of subscribers is possible off the same BSU. 2. multiple vendor support ( currently you have Redline, Aperto, Airspan, Alvarion, all with FCC approved equipment ) 3. Better RF performance ( even with siso systems ) 4. NLOS performance ( OFDM+OFDMA = More difficult shots obtain link ) 5. Better QOS support, and service flows ( UGS, NRTPS, ETC can be ) 6. Greater scalablity ( Single sector can support hundreds of subscribers, our platform supports 30,000 pps ) 7. Support for multiline VOIP out of box ( UGS + 30K PPS ) 8. Sub 350 cpe shipping today ( in 100 packs, less with frame order commitments putting your cost sub 300 ) 9. Carrier class systems vs Wisp class ( True 99.999% uptime solutions available for base station equipment, reducing downtime and truck rolls ) 10. Carrier class network management systems that simplify provisioning and management of subscribers and base stations. Even if you don't choose aperto, there are many options in the market to choose from. Talk to your local reseller about your options, Such as Wireless Connections and Wirelessguys carry many products to choose from. Best Regards, Jeff Booher Aperto Networks, Inc Channel Manager, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950 On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:14:44 -0500, "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Increased spectral efficiency > Advanced antenna support (the only benefit I understand is increased > signal > margin) > Higher likelihood of multiple vendors vs. many previous BWA technologies, > though not now > Eventual lower CPE cost, though not now > > > ---------- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:55 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP > > > > What is your opinion about the greatness of WiMax based upon? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:19 AM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP > > > > > >>I believe that WiMax is great... greater than equipment we currently use. > >> I just don't use it at this time because of the cost. I also don't buy > >> into > >> a lot of the hype people (press, manufacturers, vendors, others) are > >> pushing. I had a project that required 10 meg of synchronous, committed > >> bandwidth per customer. I was told (by more than one group) because of > >> the > >> WiMax magic, I could put 2 - 3 customers on equipment capable of 23 megs. > >> Sorry, you simply cannot put 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound box, no > >> matter > >> the magic. Other than Mikrotik, only the AN-80i would have been worth > >> it. > >> > >> I do appreciate the FCC's requirement of equipment getting along with > >> dissimilar equipment. Who knows when we'll have another Canopy or > >> Tsunami > >> introduced that just doesn't play well with others. > >> > >> > >> ---------- > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:38 PM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP > >> > >> > >>>I do not think we should build our networks for the "sole purpose of > >>> suckering, err, selling to someone else". I do believe that I want > >>> anything I build to have value in the event I do sell. That is not > >>> "suckering" anyone. Why not build something that holds value or > >>> appreciates in value? I know a future plan for WISPs to build WiMax > >>> networks in 3.65 would result in better networks, better valuations > >>> for WISPs and better economies of scale. > >>> > >>> Leaning on 802.11 further is just not the plan we should be using for > >>> new bands and new opportunities like we have in 3650. We have a chance > >>> to build something greater than we have now. WiMax is what the rest of > >>> the world is already using in the 3.4 thru 3.8 GHz band. Do any of you > >>> think it is smarter for us to abandon the global scale afforded to us > >>> if we adopt WiMax in 3.65? I am surprised more of you are not speaking > >>> up and saying you agree with this philosophy. Dividing the camp on > >>> this will not help us as an industry. > >>> > >>> I would like to see this group, for once, accept that we need to do > >>> something together, as a group, for the common good. I think this is > >>> that opportunity. I see little reason for us to take any other course > >>> of action in 3.65 GHz. WISPs need to do something as a group to help > >>> our industry. WiMax in 3.65 is that logical step for us to work > >>> together and reach some scale and some value. > >>> > >>> This is not about "suckering" anyone or being "stuck in a rut". This > >>> is a chance for us to move to the next level. It is almost > >>> embarrassing to me that we are actually behind the rest of the world > >>> here in the US when it comes to this band. WiMax is a serious platform > >>> with many advantages over anything else we have built and used. The > >>> light licensed opportunities in 3.65 are an incredible experiment that > >>> we need to show success in. If we choose WiMax and adopt this as the > >>> platform for 3.65 I believe we will advance our entire industry to a > >>> higher level of funding opportunities, operational reliability, more > >>> service offerings, etc. > >>> Scriv > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:09 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> I know that a certain number of us ARE going to build a network for the > >>>> sole > >>>> purpose of suckering...errr, selling it to someone else. > >>>> > >>>> Now, I have severe ethical disagreements with this notion. It reminds > >>>> me > >>>> of "flipping houses" or "speculative oil investing", perhaps? > >>>> > >>>> Now, to build a business SOLELY for the purpose of selling for a huge > >>>> chunk > >>>> of money to someone larger, of planned consolidation seems > >>>> self-defeating. > >>>> yes, you might profit, but wha have you really done productively? > >>>> > >>>> Still, there are many of us who are NOT intending to "build to sell". > >>>> We're not in the business of flipping customers to someone else. In > >>>> that > >>>> case, overspending for the return on your dollar makes little sense. > >>>> I'm > >>>> not sure if ANY hardware platform makes sense in this industry. If we > >>>> run > >>>> the numbers, does it actually havea positive return? I suspect not. > >>>> > >>>> Still, for those of us who aer NOT in the business of polishing up a > >>>> turd > >>>> to > >>>> sell to someone else ( You have no idea how long I've waited to use > >>>> that > >>>> term, since I read it a few years ago!), the investment and prices > >>>> don't > >>>> make any real sense... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>> <insert witty tagline here> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "David Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:10 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> A number of WISPS are moving to this platform as they find that > >>>>> the higher end equipment is worth more on a buyout. > >>>>> > >>>>> Lets put it this way. If you have a network to sell, how much more do > >>>>> you > >>>>> think you will get if you have Cisco instead of Mikrotik? Nothing > >>>>> against > >>>>> them, but the quality of your infrastructure is heavily weighed during > >>>>> a > >>>>> buyout. If you don't agree, check the many spam's on this and other > >>>>> lists > >>>>> from the guys buying networks. Some won't even look at you if you > >>>>> don't > >>>>> have Canopy or better equipment. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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