Same here, I thought it was all marketing hype, if it works like the
poster mentioned, we will need to consider moving up our timetable for
evaluating wimax, 10k a basestation suddenly isn't that bad with the
performance described.

Regards
Michael Baird

> Now this is a 180* of what others have told me, even others offering 
> traditional, D, and E products.
> 
> 
> ----------
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:06 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
> 
> 
> > With some of the Wimax discussions going on I thought I would throw
> > my hat into the ring.
> >
> > 3.650 Wimax using 802.16d only products provides decent connectivity,
> > at a higher cost than traditional unlicensed
> > gear.  Performance/coverage is on par, or better than 2.4 that most
> > of are used to.  Pay a little extra for product, gain access to
> > cleaner spectrum and hopefully a rule set that helps keep it cleaner
> > than our wild wild west unlicensed world.
> >
> > Now deploy 3.650 using 802.16e upgradeable products.  The coverage
> > difference when using diversity options goes up significantly.  Now
> > 3.650 begins to act and feel more like a 900Mhz product with NLOS
> > coverage capability.  Actually our customers, and our field tests are
> > showing that it exceeds 900Mhz often by a large margin.  Here are a
> > couple recent field examples all 2nd order diversity:
> >
> > Customer 1- 8.4 mile NLOS location. blocked by heavy trees .  1.5MB
> > download holding CPE in their hand on the ground!  Decided to test
> > 5.8 at this location and @ 50' AGL the CPE got a link.  5.8 mounted
> > on the same tower, same height as 3.650.  The 5.8 system could not
> > pass data and could just barely maintain association.
> >
> > Customer 2- 12.4 miles away at the owners home.  1.0mb on the
> > ground.  This location could not be serviced by 2.4 or 5.8 at 40'
> > above the ground previously.  The owner is going to mount Wimax on
> > the roof and I expect he will se 10-12MB at that height.
> >
> > Customer 2- 12.6 miles on the ground.  Completely obstructed 6MB down 3MB 
> > up.
> >
> > Customer 3- This is one of the most telling.  Canopy 900
> > operator.  3.650 2nd order diversity mounted 10' below Canopy.  100%
> > coverage at 3.650 of a small city.  It takes 2 tower locations
> > with  900 here to serve the same area.  They gave up field testing
> > because "it works everywhere".  They the said "lets try to break
> > it".  We drove to a part of town that is challenged with 900
> > coverage.  They found a traditionally bad coverage spot and drove up
> > to a big tree, took the CPE out of the vehicle and buried it in the
> > tree.  -101 signal.  They then picked up their VOIP phone and called
> > the NOC and did a "can you hear me now"?  Toll quality voice call.
> >
> > Our internal testing is showing similar results. Using 4th order
> > diversity is showing even better results than above.  When you do the
> > upgrade to 16e and add Wave II CPE, Katy bar the door.  That coverage
> > is nothing less than jaw dropping.  2.5 miles obstructed with a PC
> > card!  Same PC card 1 mile away entering a commercial building, no
> > signal change.  Not possible with a traditional system.  In this case
> > the wall measured a 25db loss, however STC and MRC diversity gains
> > completely made up for the attenuation once the paths became uncorrelated.
> >
> > Bottom line is diversity is the place to be with Wimax.  It is more
> > expensive, so find a way to afford it.  Push your vendor for price
> > breaks and don't be bashful.  Alvarion for example is willing to work
> > to earn business as well as the others.  CPE costs for D and E
> > systems are the same today, E will be much cheaper in the near
> > future.  Not all Wimax is the same, so test a site or visit one, you
> > will walk away amazed.
> >
> > My two cents, and we carry all D and E products.  Each has its place.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Cowan
> > Wireless Connections
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