Can anyone explain why the rule would encourage spectrum hogging?    Use 
wider channel = get more eirp....???



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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field


> It's 1 watt per MHz of channel width.  It's up to the FCC to certify
> something for more than 20 MHz of channel space.
>
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>
> Sorry to Hijack this but what was the final EIRP determined by the FCC on
> 3.65? I remember they were talking about allowing 24 watts I believe I 
> read
> on the site somewhere. Lastly where on the fcc site do you register your
> base stations? What about searching the site for deployed base stations in
> your area?
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Charles Wu
>> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 2:04 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>>
>> That's a lot easier *SAID* than done...
>>
>> Especially when you factor in frame rates / etc (as one configures
>> those depending on the type of traffic)
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Jeff Booher
>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:37 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>>
>>
>>
>> Having a competitor use the same upload and download ratios and similar
>> GPS
>> settings will yes, make it so operators can coexist without the issues
>> of
>> interference.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Booher
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:51 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>>
>> John,
>>
>> >From what I understand all manufactures are required to use the same
>> >GPS
>> sync, so all WiMax gear with the appropriate timing settings equal can
>> be
>> timed together.  Apparently the FCC is requiring it for the equipment
>> to be
>> certified.
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of John Rock
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:37 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>>
>> I would disagree. WiMAX should be a goal for most WISPs to get into
>> their
>> networks over the next 1-3 years.
>> Why??? Roaming!!! It will be the real deal and the WISP market, if they
>> do
>> the right things, will be able to setup roaming agreements to exist
>> with
>> each other all over the USA.
>> CPE will be available in all sorts of devices between 2.3 and 3.8 GHz
>> and
>> yes 3.65 falls in that window. Device frequency scanning will be
>> dictated by
>>
>> availabilty. So if the WISP Market, small and large, build compatable
>> 3.65
>> networks with viable roaming agreements with the right service flows
>> everyone could be happy. Keep in mind the right things need to fall in
>> place
>>
>> for this to happen.
>>
>> Hurdles...
>> -CPE that really are interoperable and in many types of devices.
>> -Base Station RF in a cellular sence. That equals build outs with
>> competitive priced Base stations in mobile mind set.
>> -Base stations from different manufactureers that can GPS sync with
>> each
>> other so UL/DL ratios can co exist in a given area. To my knowledge
>> this
>> does not exist yet but would be critical to help with interference in
>> the
>> 3.65 GHz band. The WiMAX forum needs to make sure this does exist
>> between
>> base stations along with the interoperability standards they are
>> developing.
>>
>> The GPS peice may exist but I have yet to see in in the standerds.
>>
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>>
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>> From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>>
>>
>> > Mike I hate to say it but I don't think WiMax is intended for the
>> > average WISP... lots of carrier grade functionality that the WISP
>> > market doesn't need, but really drives up the price (I think its
>> > supposed to do 6 9's for
>> > availability?)
>> >
>> > It sucks that its going to limit the WISP's with small customers
>> bases
>> >
>> > Daniel White
>> > 3-dB Networks
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 6:36 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>> >
>> > Which is not your average WISP...
>> >
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>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jeff Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>> >
>> >
>> >> Brian,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Depends on many factors. The price point of 10k per sector is
>> usually
>> >> assuming you are talking about purchasing 1-6 sectors. Most of the
>> >> MFR's are able to and willing to come down in price considerably
>> when
>> >> frame orders or larger deployments are taken into consideration.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jeff Booher
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>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>> >> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:06 PM
>> >> To: WISPA General List
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So, how much does this stuff cost?
>> >>
>> >> Brian
>> >>
>> >> John McDowell wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I believe it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today we had a 1.5 mile shot through dense trees using Redline
>> Redmax
>> >> 3.65.
>> >>
>> >> Customer was getting close to 500k upload. Signal held steady at
>> 88db on
>> >> a
>> >>
>> >> 1-story house.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Mike Cowan
>> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Many of you have known me for years, some wish they didn't :-).  I
>> am
>> >>
>> >> the doubting Thomas type and have to test myself before I recommend
>> >>
>> >> products to a client.  Lets just say that Thomas was satisfied.  Now
>> >>
>> >> the clients are echoing the same and that is what drives my wagon.
>> >>
>> >> Message-Id:
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>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 08:52 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Same here, I thought it was all marketing hype, if it works like the
>> >>
>> >> poster mentioned, we will need to consider moving up our timetable
>> for
>> >>
>> >> evaluating wimax, 10k a basestation suddenly isn't that bad with the
>> >>
>> >> performance described.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Michael Baird
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Now this is a 180* of what others have told me, even others offering
>> >>
>> >> traditional, D, and E products.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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