I challenge that. We have made fax over G711 work with piece of crap  
ATAs and Asterisk. Its the network that matters most.

-Matt

On Aug 11, 2008, at 2:57 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> Well, it doesn't run well enough to be a service I'm willing to  
> associate
> with my company at this point.  I've done G.711 and T.38 with many
> softswitches and many ATAs.  It's too finicky.
>
>
> ----------
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
>
>
>> Fax is a requirement and most certainly can work with VoIP. As we
>> found out T.38 and G711 are mutually exclusive. T.38 is meant to work
>> over G729 as G711 is supposed actually carry faxes successfully.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>>> Fax machines don't run over VoIP either.  They just don't, T.38
>>> doesn't
>>> really work.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Businesses cannot run on cell phones.  Nor can fax machines.
>>>> Voip is cheaper than cell service.  The quality is better.  People
>>>> like
>>>> their old numbers and don't want to port them to cell.
>>>> Voip does not run out of batteries or fade in and out if you go to
>>>> the
>>>> basement.  Voip doesn't have the arguable threat of causing you  
>>>> brain
>>>> cancer.  Real telephones are more comfortable to use.  Lots of
>>>> reasons.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We're just getting started with it.  We're going mostly with
>>>>> (keeping
>>>>> another company or two in mind if things don't work out for us)
>>>>> Netsapians.
>>>>> So far they've been good to work with and they have a product  
>>>>> that I
>>>>> think
>>>>> I
>>>>> can sell.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still think, in the end, voip will be about as big as muni
>>>>> wifi.  That
>>>>> is
>>>>> to say, MOST people will go cell phone for voice.  Not voip in any
>>>>> form
>>>>> from
>>>>> any company.  Why do most of us need multiple personal phone
>>>>> lines????
>>>>>
>>>>> Businesses will likely be different.  But I'm not sure that the
>>>>> price
>>>>> wars
>>>>> are over.  Doesn't look like there's gonna be much money in MOST
>>>>> services
>>>>> on
>>>>> the internet.  The money for those on this list will continue to  
>>>>> be
>>>>> transport.
>>>>> marlon
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "John McDowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA
>>>>> General
>>>>> List"
>>>>> <wireless@wispa.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:59 PM
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone care to give some pithy comments on white label voip  
>>>>>> product
>>>>>> launches?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who did you choose? How many customers do you have? How are you
>>>>>> billing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> John M. McDowell
>>>>>> Boonlink Communications
>>>>>> 307 Grand Ave NW
>>>>>> Fort Payne, AL 35967
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