On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They have to be an i series receiver. There is a plain SD version and an HD > DVR version.
Ok so the standard internet capable receiver series. > > AFAIK, wireless is not an option. I don't know the bandwidth per channel (I > asked, just was never told), but was told it would fit in 100 megabits. It > is multicast, so multiple receivers with the same show use the same > upstream... stream. Ive got evil ideas about how to do it. Now ive got some more prodding about getting to it. Seams like it needs a full gigE feed so that does wrinkle things, but that would be for the full 500 or so channels maybe? > > The guy I was working with said they can evaluate the particular project and > massage it to help it obtain DirecTV's approval. Mmmm, I wonder if someone just wanted 2 or 3 channels what they would do. > The deal with the ROW is > that DirecTV doesn't want themselves or you to possibly be considered a > franchise. That seams reasonable enough, in the old ways of thinking. My understanding is that anything over the net can not be called a franchise. I can see how the line becomes blurred when you own the last mile and the services running on it. Still, I see about a dozen places I could use this if I can make a business case for it. > > http://www.directv.com/images/assets/mdu/DIRECTV_MFH3.pdf > > > ---------- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:00 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? > >> I am extremely interested in this. I knew DTV would let you setup a >> mini cable-op but I have not heard about them having any end receivers >> involved with it. What is the deal with crossing ROW's? I assume this >> would apply to wireless. Do you know the bandwidth used per channel? >> >> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> DirecTV has a program for MDUs and planned communities. They send the >>> signals over Ethernet from a main set of RF receivers to the DirecTV >>> receivers in each unit. The catch is that you're not supposed to cross a >>> public right of way with the DirecTV content. >>> >>> If you have some questions, I'll try to ask. Otherwise, I'll pass you on >>> to >>> the reps at the companies I've been working with. >>> >>> >>> ---------- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:12 PM >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber + Sending Sat over it? >>> >>>> Ok folks, >>>> >>>> Sorry for the delay in response to the replies. Out fiber interest >>>> started >>>> because we have a new neighborhood just being developed and they are >>>> debating between us and Comcast going in there. Our plans for this one >>>> is >>>> to >>>> build a tower in the very rear of the complex and pipe in the feed to >>>> the >>>> tower using tango's gigalink radio for the backhaul and then run fiber >>>> to >>>> the homes in the neighborhood. Since paving is not done yet it's a great >>>> time to get a start. So obviously with the available bandwidth we will >>>> be >>>> offering them speeds faster than Comcast could plus voip service over >>>> the >>>> FTTH. There biggest drawback and the reason for us wanting to do fiber >>>> here >>>> is this area is like the Jungle and they want to keep it like that, so >>>> chances are satellite won't even work at each home because of trees. So >>>> again their reservation with our plan is they have no TV or satellite >>>> service but if Comcast went in they would. They would rather go with us >>>> if >>>> we could find a way to get them TV as well. So does anyone know of a way >>>> to >>>> distribute satellite service over fiber? We could obviously put the dish >>>> on >>>> the tower and pick of the satellite no problem but how to get it to the >>>> homes over the fiber? >>>> >>>> Michiana Wireless, Inc. >>>> John Buwa, President >>>> >>>> http://WWW.MichianaWireless.Com >>>> 574-233-7170 >>>> >>>> "Lose the wires, discover the speed, enjoy the freedom!" >>>> >>>> *US Distributor for www.itelite.net Antennas* >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>>>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:54 AM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber >>>>> >>>>> We can buy the ONT for $375. >>>>> The COE per sub works out to about another $200. >>>>> So $500 plus the strand of fiber. Drop fiber can be had for 25 cents >>>>> per >>>>> foot. >>>>> Contractors can put it in for a buck a foot. Including cleanup. >>>>> In a subdivision, I can do FTTH for less than $1K per sub. >>>>> And my arpu for the triple play is around $80 or more minimum. We are >>>>> in >>>>> the black the second year. >>>>> Small directional boring machines really don't mess up the landscaping >>>>> much. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Charles Wyble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:46 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Running Fiber >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Jerry Richardson wrote: >>>>> >> I hate to rain on someone's parage but before you can dig under the >>>>> >> streets and sidewalks you have to get approval from the City or >>>>> County. >>>>> >> They typically require engineering surveys, and co-ordination with >>>>> the >>>>> >> other utilities such as power, tv, phone, water, sewer, etc. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Even with directional boring you still have to dig up something >>>>> somewhere >>>>> >> so there will be landscape repair costs, and cleanup. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I would venture to guess it will be about 2000 per house by the time >>>>> it's >>>>> >> all said and done (possibly more). >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > You are correct. The cost per subscriber for fiber/cable/dsl/copper >>>>> is >>>>> > $1500.00. I actually just recently was talking with some telcom >>>>> > executives about this. Oh and that is spread across lots of >>>>> subscribers >>>>> > over several years. You need millions or billions upfront. >>>>> >> That's a lot of wireless. Even at 10k per wiMax AP you would be way >>>>> ahead >>>>> >> (in 6 months they will be 5k). >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > Yep. And wireless doesn't require nearly as much effort in terms of >>>>> > rights of way etc. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 >>>>> > http://charlesnw.blogspot.com >>>>> > CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ----------- >>>>> > WISPA Wants You! 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