Here is Lauri Vertrees' response to the issues raised. She is our Operations Director, whose responsibility includes porting numbers. Most of her comments reaffirm what others have already stated.
Ron: a) VoX knows how to port. We have never directly requested to port a telephone number from Farmers' Telecommunications Coop because..... b) We are not a switched, facilities based land line carrier and thus rely on our carrier partners to port telephone numbers to VoX. If our porting partners do not have coverage in a Rate Center (an Interconnect Agreement) we cannot obtain DIDs nor can we port DIDs from that Rate Center. It's all about the numbers. If the dollars made sense, the Interconnect Agreement would already be in place. So, the bottom line on Marlon Williamson's port request from Farmers' Telecommunications Coop to VoX is that our porting partners do not have an Interconnect Agreement in place with them and therefore cannot provide service to the Rainsville, AL Rate Center. VoX LNP is very careful with its language. We do not blame the donor LEC. The rejection notice states that the telephone number is not portable at this time and the further explanation is that VoX cannot provide service to this Rate Center, at this time. Chris Townson's comment in part 2 regarding non-geographical porting is very good. In porting, both carriers must shake hands, trade information and agree -- both the donor LEC and the receiving carrier. Not all LECs like to or want to play nice. No matter what the FCC says. I have checked the surrounding rate centers to see if there is a local alternative. There are 3 other RCs around Rainsville, but they are all served by Farmer's Coop. Bottom line - we cannot get numbers in this location (256-638) and therefore cannot port. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Ron Harden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers!!!! John: Let me know what our porting guru says tomorrow. Ron -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers!!!! This was an email from a Rep at the Coop when one of my employees tried to port their home number to their new Vox/Boonlink ATA: Mr. Williamson, First, a Trading Partner Profile (TPP) is an agreement between two communications companies that allows the sharing of necessary information (Name, Company Codes, Addresses, and other required technical information) and sometimes serves as an unofficial agreement between the companies. You don't have to do anything for FTC and Voxcorp to exchange a TPP. However, Voxcorp must submit a bona fide request (BFR) to FTC requesting the ability to port numbers (which they've not done), and then the two companies would exchange the TPPs or exchange other industry standard agreements to allow port processing. Voxcorp has never requested the ability to port numbers with FTC. All they have to do is request, through normal FCC procedures, the ability to port, and then FTC will move forward with the porting process. They cannot, however, just send a request to port the number to them and expect us to process that request. They know that, as a communications company, they must follow FCC mandated processes before we can move forward. It is illegal for either company to do so otherwise. If their representative will contact me, send a BFR, and then we will move forward with the process. Otherwise, there is nothing FTC can do. Please be assured that the statement that your "VoIP company .could not get Farmers to port my number" is not an accurate or true statement. Your VoIP company hasn't used any of the industry standard procedures, to my knowledge, to attempt to port your number. FTC has no reason to stop this process. If you do successfully port your local number to your VoIP provider, then your local landline service will be disconnected. We will have to disconnect your DSL as well. If this happens, consider that you will have to have another high speed internet provider for your VoIP service to work. Also, there are safety considerations as to the effectiveness of emergency service calls (911, etc...) when using a VoIP service. Please be informed of all the details surrounding these issues. Your VoIP provider should be able to provide you with all of the related information. You may already be aware of all of this, but there are several items to consider before disconnecting your local service. I hope this information helps you. Let me know if I can be of more assistance. Feel free to contact us at anytime. Sincerely, Chris Townson On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think that exemption applied to LNP. It did for a while to keep > CLECs out of the rural areas but that has now sunset. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] I want to port their numbers!!!! > > > > If you take a look at the exemption they have to have less then 50,000 > > phone numbers or lines. I can't remember which. > > Do a bit of research on it and find the exact clause that enables them > > to do that. Most likely they are to large to qualify. Then send them a > > nice letter from a nice attorney. Also be ready for the long haul. > > They will fight it just to keep you and others from coming in if they > > are in the right or not. It would be a good idea to find some others in > > your area with a interest in this such as the local cable company or > > others that would want the same thing. Pool your resource and make it > > look like you and your partners are as big as they come. > > > > Anthony Will > > Broadband Corp. > > http://www.broadband-mn.com > > > > > > > > John McDowell wrote: > >> Local Cooperative Telco will not let us port. What is my work around? > >> > >> Order PRI to our tower in their territory? We're working with VoxCorp, > so > >> they have to be able to grab those numbers even if we do something like > >> this.. > >> > >> Verizon Wireless has local numbers with this company for their > cellular, > >> and it has to be because they have towers in their territory with > PRIs??? > >> > >> Somebody have a solution? > >> > >> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > WISPA Wants You! 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