Interesting subject - quality of service. I give 10 times better
service than the cable and phone companys but this buys me nothing.
People will leave you for as little as $5/month or a lousy $50 gift
card. It kills me!
-RickG

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well that is a testimony to your quality of service for sure.
> Now, if you were using Canopy your customers would be even happier!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
>
>
>>I have Qwest DSL, CableOne, another WISP (doing "up to 4meg" for $29.95
>> with Canopy), and a licensed WiMax (2.5ghz) provider (doing "up to
>> 2meg", mobile, for $29.95). I have a lot of competition... and yet we
>> have no sales people, no real advertising campaign, and more installs
>> than we can keep up with each month.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>> You must not have competitors.  I have both Qwest and Comcast giving away
>>> multi megabit starting at $15.95
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Travis Johnson
>>>   To: WISPA General List
>>>   Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:53 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers
>>>
>>>
>>>   I guess that's my point... why offer more bandwidth than you have to?
>>> Most people don't need more than 1meg, and that's our most popular
>>> package for $39.95 per month (total, no modem rental fee, etc.). Why give
>>> away the farm if you don't have to? :)
>>>
>>>   Travis
>>>   Microserv
>>>
>>>   RickG wrote:
>>> Wow, with all that bandwidth, I'm surprised you dont offer higher speeds.
>>>
>>> Technically speaking, the download & upload price is the same. From a
>>> cost standpoint, I allocate the download & upload separately because I
>>> am "forced" to pay dearly ($1200/month) to AT&T for my dual T1's which
>>> are required for "decent" upload speeds. Right now, my traffic is
>>> split so all port 80 traffic flows though the 4Mbps x 2Mbps connection
>>> through Time Warner which runs over $500/month. This works fairly well
>>> for now since about half the traffic is web browsing. When I bought
>>> this WISP there was no management, monitoring or reporting. I took
>>> care of the management & monitoring and I'm working on the reporting.
>>> The best thing I've done is replace the StarOS firewall with Mikrotik
>>> and set up traffic priority.
>>> Whew! Lots of work. At any rate, I'm working on my upstream connection
>>> next. I really need to get the cost down.
>>>
>>> Thanks! -RickG
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   Rick,
>>>
>>> Yes, all of our packages are symmetrical speeds (same download and
>>> upload).
>>> So if they buy our 512k package, they get 512k down x 512k up all the
>>> time.
>>> They are not "dedicated" connections, but rather you get what you pay for
>>> connections. We still oversubscribe users on an AP, but only to the point
>>> where each AP is running around 60% capacity during peak times, thus
>>> leaving
>>> room for bursts, etc. We graph and monitor every single AP (over 200 of
>>> them) and every single user (bandwidth, packets, RSSI, etc.) so we always
>>> know what's happening on our network.
>>>
>>> We currently have three full OC-3 (155Mbps) dedicated connections to the
>>> backbone. On average, we pay $40/meg for bandwidth. Why is your upload
>>> price
>>> different than your download price?
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> RickG wrote:
>>>
>>> Travis,
>>>
>>> Nice work! Therefore, you are selling dedicated bandwidth to all of
>>> your customers. In other words, if all your customers run speed test
>>> at the same time they will get what their plan allows. If you dont
>>> mind, I have a few questions:
>>> Is the above scenario true for upload speed as well as download speed?
>>> What are you paying for your upstream connection?
>>> What type of upstream connection do you have?
>>>
>>> I'd like to be there and I keep hoping cheap bandwidth comes my way.
>>> When you are paying $150/meg for download and $400/meg for upload, the
>>> business model is tough.
>>>
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> BTW: I'd take this offlist if you prefer but I think this is a problem
>>> that many us us small WISP's face.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Every customer can get the speed they are paying for ANY time they run a
>>> speed test. We offer packages from 512k to 2.5meg for residential
>>> customers
>>> and they always get what they pay for (download AND upload, which is the
>>> same for all of our packages).
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> RickG wrote:
>>>
>>> Travis,
>>>
>>> If I understand this correctly, you have at least 1Mbps or higher of
>>> bandwidth for every customer?
>>>
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> We deliver what the customers pay for. If they purchase a 1Mbps package,
>>> they get 1Mbps 24x7 (with no monthly bit caps). Personally I have never
>>> liked the "up to" speed packages... it's like going to Walmart and
>>> buying milk. You can pay $3 for a full 1 gallon, or you can pay $2 for
>>> "up to" a gallon (without really knowing how much you are going to get,
>>> but it will be somewhere between nothing and a full gallon).
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone else here have customer/s that consume so much bandwidth that
>>> you have to throttle them down after say 5 minutes of downloading. And
>>> what
>>> do you tell them when they start complaining about the throttled down
>>> speed.
>>> (they don't know your throttling them though)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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