I just can't find it on peoples websites...

Gino Villarini wrote:
> everywere , we have about 5 APs deployed ...
>  
>
> Gino A. Villarini 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145 
>
>  
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:08 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
>
>
> Is the 400 series available?  And where?
>
> 3-dB Networks wrote: 
>
>       I've always found the argument that Canopy is a poor steward of
> the spectrum
>       interesting...
>       
>       Canopy allows channel reuse with GPS sync.  Canopy is also more
> likely to
>       deliver that same sustained throughput in a variety of
> conditions no 802.11
>       based system will.  If I also started thinking about it I'm sure
> I could
>       think of gear that uses wider channels (Proxim comes to mind) to
> deliver
>       less throughput.
>       
>       The problem is roughly modulation.  Compare 802.11b to Canopy
> instead of
>       802.11G.  Motorola's OFDM product, the Canopy 400 series...
> delivers 21Mbps
>       in a 10MHz channel... I'd say that's pretty efficient.  Double
> that to 20MHz
>       and you will have the Canopy 430 Series at 40Mbps.  Advantage
> Canopy gives
>       you 14Mbps in a 20MHz Channel.  So from a innovation standpoint
> Motorola has
>       taken the same amount of spectrum and doubled the throughput...
> and from a
>       spectrum use perspective they are now going to deliver near that
> coveted
>       54Mbps mark... but still allowing for channel reuse, etc.
>       
>       I think one of the more interesting case studies has been
> deploying 20
>       Access Points on one tower in the 5.8GHz Band.  Try that with
> any other
>       system.
>       
>       Daniel White
>       3-dB Networks
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>       Behalf Of Butch Evans
>       Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:09 AM
>       To: WISPA General List
>       Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
>       
>       On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>       
>         
>
>               If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will find
> more than 
>               a hundred WISPs, many of them very small operations from
> 100-1000 
>               subscribers that are 100% canopy.  And generally
> speaking they are 
>               kicking butt and taking names in their markets.  I
> disagree that 
>               Canopy is not marketed to the smaller WISPS.  It costs a
> little
>                   
>
>       
>       Perhaps I stated my point in the wrong way.  It would be more 
>       accurate to say that Canopy WISPs tend to be larger.  This was
> not a 
>       "smack" against Canopy.  It was, actually, a compliment to their
>
>       ability to do the things they do in a junk spectrum like the
> 2.4GHz 
>       band.  As for their focused marketing toward smaller WISPs or
> not, I 
>       can only say that if you took a poll of WISPs of all sizes,
> you'd 
>       find more larger WISPs using it than the smaller guys.  So if
> it's a 
>       matter of focus from their marketing department or not, I'd have
> to 
>       say that their take rate is better among those that are not "new
>
>       startups" or "smaller" (how you define those 2 groups may be 
>       different than my definition).  And, for what it's worth, I AM
> on 
>       the Moto list.  ;-)
>       
>         
>
>               And they are still innovating.
>                   
>
>       
>       If you reread my post, this is exactly what I was complimenting
> them 
>       about.
>       
>         
>
>               It is funny how the Canopy product line is so polarizing
> in this 
>               industry.
>                   
>
>       
>       There are many things that Canopy does well.  There are some
> things 
>       that they do not.  Until recently, Motorola was making comments
> to 
>       the FCC that could not be interpreted in any way other than they
> did 
>       not like unlicensed broadband.  You can read their older
> comments 
>       (as recently as 2-3 years ago) and reach your own decisions
> about 
>       that.  This company policy seems to have changed.  Specifically,
>
>       their comments on TVWS seemed to be very much on the side of 
>       unlicensed use.  At least some of them did.  I didn't read all
> of 
>       their comments.
>       
>       As for the technology, Canopy has been a poor steward of the 
>       spectrum.  At least in the eyes of many other WISPs.  Their
> system 
>       works very well, but used a lot of spectrum (more than 802.11x)
> and 
>       didn't deliver equivalent throughput.  This, too, has changed 
>       somewhat and seems to be a work in progress.  Another reason
> many 
>       folks are not happy with Canopy is the reality that you cannot 
>       co-exist with them.  While this is not a bad thing for Canopy
> users, 
>       anyone else is stuck with their wider channels and difficult to 
>       avoid noise.
>       
>         
>
>               I don't understand human psychology well enough to even
> begin to 
>               explain why this is such a polarizing topic.  Cognitive
> dissonance 
>               seems to come into play.
>                   
>
>       
>       Some of the reasons are mentioned above.  I am sure other
> reasons 
>       exist.  Personally, I don't agree with all the reasoning, but
> some 
>       of it I do.
>       
>         
>
>
>
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