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Also, I would like to point out, you are MUCH better to get smaller
connections from at least two separate providers... yes, it will cost
more, but even the big guys have outages. Case and point: two weeks ago
our Qwest OC3 was completely down. None of our customers even noticed,
because we have plenty of capacity on the other two OC3 circuits (just
for this type of problem) so it didn't affect us at all. However, a WISP only 100 miles from me that had a dedicated DS3 from Qwest (as their only provider) was completely down from 8:00AM until 3:00PM on a business day. I also know one of my competitors was down during that same time. We service hospitals, banks, insurance companies, TV stations, radio stations, etc. I know if we had been down for 7 hours we would have a big black eye right now. :( Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Take GigE on fiber from them. Then use whatever microwave you can get to haul it to wherever you need to go. There is a huge price break when you go 100 mbps burstable on a GigE. You can wholesale enough on your way out of town to pay for the whole thing. But you must meet the tier 1/2 provider at their place to get the deals.----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...There's certainly much cheaper bandwidth in those cities, but unless you're 1, maybe 2 fiber hops away and are buying 50 megs+, it isn't worth it. The number of Wireless hops vary. Once you hit say 100 megs or 150 megs, it's a different ball game. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:53 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...I am certain you can do much better than that. And you don't even have to be in Chicago or Detroit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Bledsoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...Blair, Do you think you could do the same thing from Chicago or Detroit? You should be able to get something in the $30~50/Mb range, maybe better if you can shoot off of a carrier hotel roof or something. -Hal -----Original Message----- From: RickG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs... Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:57:55 -0500 I've got the same issues here. I'm getting rid of my expensive T1's and bringing in bandwidth from 30 miles away. If the usages keeps growing, I'll employ one of the options you mention below. -RickG On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:With the things that are coming, I'm starting to wounder just how the bandwidth/pricing model is going to have to change. This is likely not a big deal for you urban guys, but out here in the rural areas, bandwidth ain't cheap. A T1, 1.54Mb/s, costs me $700/month. On my fiber, 1Mb/s costs me $200/month. These movie services look to run 2Mb/s. IPTV looks to run 500Kb/s per stream. Just how much of this can our rural networks handle? The sat. services can't do this. The cellular providers can't do this. Most of us have our residential service priced in the $35-$45 range. It doesn't take a accountant to see that those numbers don't add up. Is per bit pricing the answer? Higher fixed monthly? Traffic discrimination? A combination? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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