Qwest was the merger of US West and Qwest. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwest
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Cosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:05 AM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information > Heh... We started with Westnet here too! Those were the days. Then > MCI, then Sprint... Never heard of Qwest in those days. > > Randy > > > Travis Johnson wrote: >> Wow.... starting with a full T1.... we started with a 256k fractional T1 >> from the local university that was part of WestNet. ;) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I know. But that is getting cheaper all the time. If you get the >>> $5 deal, perhaps there is an ATM cloud in the city you can use to >>> wholesale in the city to defray part of the cost and get you as far out >>> of town as possible. If you give it away at cost or just a bit above >>> just to help pay the bill you should have plenty of takers in town. >>> >>> Take delivery at a friendly wholesale customer on the edge of the cloud >>> and then start the dragonwave etc backhaul chain to whereever your turf >>> is. Just have to keep banging your head against the rock, eventually >>> the rock gives up. We started with 1 T1 from Qwest like many others. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Travis Johnson >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:55 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> >>> Chuck.... the issue with most people isn't the cost per meg at the >>> port.... I've found $5/meg at the port.... the issue is getting it from >>> the port to your NOC. :( >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >>> There deals clear down to $7/meg. >>> Ask vendors for a 2 year contract, GigE 100 Mbps burstable. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:07 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> >>> http://www.nefiber.com/ >>> >>> Recently, I learned that American Fiber Systems has "InterCity Fiber >>> Ring" that connects Las Vegas, Reno/Carson City, Boise and Salt Lake on >>> a fully redundant OC-192 capacity backbone. >>> They aren't cheap on the low end at $2000/month for 5 meg burstable to >>> 10, but I image the price per meg drops quickly as the bandwidth goes >>> up. >>> These guys do fiber in California >>> >>> http://www.fiberinternetcenter.com/ >>> >>> They do 5 meg burstable to 10 at $1595-1995 but they told me they can do >>> 100 meg for about $7000 per month. >>> >>> John >>> >>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>> Right. I'm amazed at how many ISPs out there don't know who these >>> providers >>> are, or the carriers outside of the RBOCs, or what connectivity >>> possibilities are in their areas. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Jason Hodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:15 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> >>> Right, it is not. It is a embedded content provider for web sites. >>> >>> J Hodge >>> 630.445.3779 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:53 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> I'm not saying it's not possible, but I doubt that there is much much >>> BitTorrent traffic coming from Limelight. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Jason Hodge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:41 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> >>> Sounds like bit torrent. What ports is the traffic on? >>> >>> J Hodge >>> 630.445.3779 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:43 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> So I grabbed all of Limelight Networks' IP blocks and created a queue >>> on >>> my MT core router. I am currently seeing about 8-9Mbps upload with only >>> a 500kbps download. Any idea why I would be seeing so much "upload" >>> traffic (coming from 10-15 different customers)? >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>> >>> 208.111.168.6 >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Travis Johnson >>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> >>> Do you happen to have the IP blocks it was coming from? >>> >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Mike Hammett wrote: >>> Since no one answered, I got NetFlix myself and added it to my XBox... >>> the >>> bandwidth is coming from Limelight Networks. >>> >>> Not quite as open as Youtube's "Yes, we will peer with you.", but they >>> have >>> an open peering policy.... that'll happen when you're generating 1000 >>> Gbps >>> of traffic. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> Can anyone provide the ASN the streams come from? >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Dennis Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:42 PM >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information >>> >>> In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up >>> to >>> provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. 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