It absolutely does bring clarification :) There is an old saying that seems appropriate:
"You can never please all the people all the time, but you can please most of the people most of the time." It's been my experience that where there is more than one person to be represented - - there are at least as many ideas as people. There is never just one person right, but many are right at the same time, but they have different ways of going about explaining themselves or getting their idea to effective words. I would never say that WISPA is representing every WISP, but with or without each and every one of your memberships - we are representing the industry and being heard as so. If there are any of you out there that aren't a member of WISPA already- whatcha waiting for? :) In numbers there is strength and power. WISPA needs you, your number and your input to help guide this industry. Sincerely, Mac Dearman > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of 3-dB Networks > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:34 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls > > A bastardization of the last definition :-) > > I don't think these lists represent the whole industry, just a part of > it. > I think many of the opinions expressed on this list (including mine) > might > not represent what the collective opinion of the industry might be. > > Basically this... things I hear from our customers and things I hear > from > this list can often times be two separate realities. Neither is wrong, > but > one doesn't necessarily represent the other. > > Does that clarify some? > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 6:24 PM > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls > > > > > I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of > the > > > industry as a whole. Most of our customers are not on either > list... > > > > > > Daniel White > > > 3-dB Networks > > > > > > What does that statement exactly mean? :) > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcosm > > > > > > Mac > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > Behalf Of 3-dB Networks > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:48 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls > > > > > > I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of > the > > > industry as a whole. Most of our customers are not on either > list... > > > > > > Daniel White > > > 3-dB Networks > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On > > > > Behalf Of Brian Webster > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 3:51 PM > > > > To: WISPA General List > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls > > > > > > > > Mac, > > > > Since this industry has really started to mature, I would > not be > > > > surprised > > > > if this data is pretty close to the industry as a whole. While > the > > > makeup > > > > of > > > > the WISPA member WISP's may not all be big like this, there are > > > certainly > > > > plenty of them that aren't members. Here is a link to a report > done > > > in > > > > California > > > > > http://www.redwoodtech.org/files/CBI_WISP_Report_WorkingDraft_0.pdf > > > about > > > > the status of the WISP industry. This was done by the state > broadband > > > task > > > > force and seems fairly balanced. California has done a pretty > good > > > job of > > > > documenting where broadband exists, that is, given what any one > > > entity can > > > > do to document all the private business. I worked with one client > to > > > > compare > > > > their results to what they knew as local market reality and it > was > > > pretty > > > > close. > > > > Heck there must be a lot more WISP's out there buying > equipment > > > that > > > > we > > > > know of at WISPA, I don't think the equipment manufacturers could > > > survive > > > > on > > > > just the WISPA numbers alone. Given that they still develop new > > > products > > > > also indicates there is more market than you or I may be aware of > or > > > else > > > > they would not still put R&D efforts in to something they don't > think > > > they > > > > could sell and make profit on. I'm of the firm belief this > industry > > > is > > > > much > > > > bigger than anyone realizes, which is why I want to get the > mapping > > > > initiative off the ground to start benchmarking things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > Brian Webster > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Behalf Of Mac Dearman > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:10 PM > > > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the > truth > > > with > > > > your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according > to > > > your > > > > poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each! > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs > > > count > > > > for > > > > a total of 1162.3 subs each while the total of the rest of the > WISPs > > > > combined (16) have an average of 1138.3 subscribers > > > > > > > > I guess there could be some really huge WISPs out here that > > > participated > > > > in > > > > the survey that I am not aware of. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cool survey & THANKS!! > > > > > > > > Mac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > > Behalf Of Chuck McCown > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:43 PM > > > > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: [WISPA] Book1.xls > > > > > > > > > > Got tired of adding it up each time. > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1833 - Release > Date: > > > > > 12/6/2008 4:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > ----- > > > > -- > > > > ---- > > > > WISPA Wants You! 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