Yeah.  How do you run poe over the fiber?
marlon

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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness


> Is using fiber-optic cable out of the question?
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mike,
>>
>> The change to 10 meg half doesn't help.  In fact, most devices won't
>> connect
>> at all then.
>>
>> The worst part is that the most expensive gear is most effected by
>> this!  ug
>>
>> I have installed ferrite beads that do indeed help.  Apryl can get
>> you the
>> contact info and part number.  509.982.2181
>>
>> The shielded cable from Shierene just came in.  And I have
>> permission to
>> move to the other side of the building.  When the snow melts and the
>> ground
>> firms up I'll rebuild the entire site.  The radio station has a new
>> transmitter since I first went into the site and another tenant
>> recently
>> left.  I have more location options now than I did before.
>>
>> Yesterday I did some testing with a Fluke DTX.  It's a crazy meter.
>> Checks
>> just about everything.  As it well should for $7000.  Know what it
>> doesn't
>> check very well though?  Inductive RF.  grrrrr  There is one test that
>> showed some problems though.  It's called an inductive pulse.
>> Readings at
>> another tower I have (and the tech support guy at Fluke) were 0.
>> This tower
>> had a reading of nearly 3000!!!!!  Fluke is supposed to find out
>> what an
>> acceptable level would be and send that info to me.  I've not heard
>> from
>> them yet though.  The tech's guess was around 30mV.
>>
>> I did think it strange that when I tested my cable with a volt meter
>> (one
>> end to ground, the other to the connectors on the cat5) I was
>> picking up 2
>> to 3 volts on each pin.  That pretty well seems to line up with the
>> 3000mV
>> reading from the fluke!
>>
>> This site has always been a source of grief for me.  Must less
>> reliable than
>> nearly any other I have, no matter what equipment is used.  I always
>> thought
>> it was due to all of the other operators in the area (one's been
>> fined by
>> the FCC for using illegal amps etc.) doing silly things.  Though
>> nothing
>> THAT bad has ever showed up on my analyzer.  I always thought it was
>> something that only the customer end could see (couldn't find that
>> on the
>> analyzer either though).  Maybe my problem has always been the radio
>> station
>> stuff.  Wouldn't that be great?  FINALLY, a network reliable enough
>> to allow
>> me to take a vacation.  grin
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Cowan" <ispwireless-li...@wirelessconnections.net>
>> To: <isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:40 AM
>> Subject: RE: [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness
>>
>>
>> Hi Marlon,
>>
>> It looks like you are on your way to solving this.  To get by until
>> then you
>> might want to try locking the Ethernet side to 10MB 1/2 duplex.  FM
>> radio
>> runs around 100mhz at high power levels, well so does a 100MB Ethernet
>> connection, it communicates at 10mhz.  10MB 1/2 runs at 66mhz I
>> believe.
>> Fixing it is really black magic however.  Sometimes grounding helps,
>> sometimes it is better without.  Many have placed the cable in
>> conduit, with
>> mixed success.  I would be very interested if the ferits help, we
>> have tried
>> a few with inconclusive results, but have not found a quality unit
>> to test
>> with either.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Mike Cowan
>> Wireless Connections
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:47 AM
>> To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com
>> Cc: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com
>> Subject: [isp-wireless] FM radio station site strangeness
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think we finally have this all figured out.  Now I just have to
>> figure out
>>
>> how to fix it.
>>
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