True. I tried to explain that for what we did and the type of market and the location of the tower we couldn't afford paying that much but also tried to explain that later on we might want to add some antennas to relay signals elsewhere. Ended up giving up on the since they wouldn't budge and I did make an arrangement with a farmer with a 120ft grain bin that was actually at a better location and a much better deal. The local farmer is very happy we are happy and the none local tower company is oblivious and lost their chance. I can reach anywhere I want to with this tower that I would on their tower.
/Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:31:50 To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers I gotta agree with Blake. Many of the big tower companies are good to WISPs, once they know you, and understand your business. Its just a long road, getting to that stage. Just like any business, sales reps want to feel out the opportunity with a client, and start out high, with the add-on fees,without discounting. What I find is that, there is a minimum dollar amount to make it worth their time to talk to you. Think about it, if they take ATT's call, they have the potential to sell 100s of towers and antennas colos. They take your call, and they have limited potential to measilly few hundred bucks, and its the same amount of work to write up the contracts. I believe Eje' situation was a side effect of not asking to colocate enough antennas in teh transaction. $300/1 antenna is a lot, but its feasible that the same tower company might have given him 5-8 antennas for $500, if he pushed for it. Most tower's have free empty space, and the candidates to buy it are shrinking. ONce they understand you business model, and understand its not cost justified for you to pay carrier price, they'll usually come down to something fair. But I think the same way... Its a hassle dealing wit htower companies, jsut because of all the legal details and time involved. I'd hardly justify spending the negotiating time myself, for just an Omni install. If you want a pack of gum, you don't go to the Hechts at the mall. Its to time consuming to get in and out of there. Instead, you go to the local 7 eleven. When you want to scale an operation and install a lot of antennas, you NEED the tower companys. And its worth paying them for the benefits it offers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Bowers" <bbow...@mozarks.com> To: <e...@wisp-router.com>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers > Hmmm > > I know LOTS of tower companies that although their main > emphasis is cellular, they are very good to WISPS and others. > > I have WISPS paying anywhere between $25.00 a month > to 500 a month, depending on location, height, etc. > > And yes, my MAIN emphasis is on Cellular. I have towers > in 18 states. > > I guess I am ripping of those WISPS. > > > Don't take your organs to heaven, > heaven knows we need them down here! > Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <e...@wisp-router.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 1:19 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers > > >> Most tower companies that deal with cell carrier are rip offs. One >> company >> I talked with wanted a minimum 500/mo and a 2k engineering fee. All I >> wanted was a omni around 150ft up in their 180ft tower and a small >> backhaul panel that could be at 80ft (18"x18" panel). >> >> I offered $300 a month that is more then $1/ft per antenna and asked for >> a >> waiver or reduction of the engineering fee. No go. Other companies same >> thing. So don't even bother with those companies any longer rather deal >> with farmers and private tower owners. >> >> /Eje >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com> >> >> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:04:31 >> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers >> >> >> I priced space for 3 sectors and 2 backhauls. They wanted $1600/mo. I >> built my own tower next to it... ;) >> >> Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:34 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers >> >> I would only assume they are, but has anyone worked with them before? >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jerry Richardson" <jrichard...@aircloud.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:23 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers >> >>> No, >>> I just thought it was interesting that all of their tower locations >> are >>> listed. >>> >>> I did not know they are as bad or worse than American Tower. >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Jerry Richardson >>> airCloud Communications >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:26 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] www.att.com/towers >>> >>> Ever price them? >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Richardson >>> <jrichard...@aircloud.com> wrote: >>>> FYI <http://www.att.com/towers> >>>> >>>> www.att.com/towers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerry Richardson >>>> VP Operations >>>> 925-260-4119 >>>> P Please consider the environment before printing this email >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ---------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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