It doesn't. You would use the Rebel in those locations. The R1 is for the lower traffic sites.
Jeff ImageStream -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul I thought that one wouldn't have enough horse power to push the 200 to 300 megs aggregate that we expect to see. marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Broadwick" <jeffl...@comcast.net> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul > BTW, we can do 12/24 volt DC with the R1 that we were discussing. > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:23 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul > > I'll tell you what my perfect tower site router would be for this. PC > based, runs on 12vdc (so we can run everything from car batteries) and has > gigE ethernet ports by the gross. Then we can route or bridge as needed > based on the requirements of the distribution radio that's plugged into > it. > > Lots of processor and memory power this way too! Maybe based on a Dell > server.... > > Am I dreaming? > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul > > >> RB493 limits ports to 100 fdx, If he is going licensed, theradios might >> be upgraded in the future to higher speeds... >> >> I would go RB1000 >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:36 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >> >> Mikrotik makes pretty good gear. Depending on traffic, I'd put an >> RB493AH in there. Should be able to do anything you needed to do >> without great concern for the weather. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:19 AM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >> >>> Right. I get that part. But I've never used it out here so I don't >>> know if it's a routing function or a bridging function like spanning >>> tree. I'm trying to figure out what hardware would be best deployed >>> at the tower sites. >>> >>> Part of what I'm trying to do is get a grip on long term costs. If I >>> have to run sensitive routers vs. hardened switches it'll make a >> difference. >>> Adding heat and AC to the towers changes the annual costs quite a bit. >>> >>> thanks, >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:53 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>> >>> >>>> OSPF is how you manage load sharing and load balancing. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:36 AM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>> >>>>> Certainly Jack. I don't know anyone that's built something like >>>>> this already though. >>>>> >>>>> And, it's really not that far off from what we already do. It's >>>>> just bigger and faster. >>>>> >>>>> I've not used the hardware needed for this system so I'm mostly >>>>> interested in what people would install. I know there are a few >>>>> people here that have very high speed backbone systems in place. >>>>> >>>>> The one part that's got me stumped so far is what to do to create a >>>>> load sharing load balancing mechanism at the main towers. Should >>>>> that be done via high end switch or router? >>>>> >>>>> If you know someone that would be good help in putting this idea >>>>> together please feel free to have them contact me. Please note, >>>>> that nothing will be able to happen at a nut and bolt specific level >> >>>>> until construction starts. The program is customer and land >>>>> acquisition specific, not build it THIS way specific. Did I say >>>>> that at all clearly? Does it make sense? >>>>> That is part of why I've not even looked for help yet, there are far >> >>>>> more questions than plans in place. Things are still at a >>>>> conceptual stage, but I'm trying to drill down a bit better. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Jack Unger >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:06 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marlon, >>>>> >>>>> Trying to design a complex system like this via a listserve >> "committee" >>>>> is more than a little bit risky. Have you considered going to >>>>> someone who actually has this type of network design experience and >>>>> paying them to do the whole job right the first time? Just asking. >>>>> >>>>> jack >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>> I don't know if I'll be able to put some many antennas on the >> towers. >>>>> >>>>> How close together would I need the towers to prevent the rain fade >>>>> outage at 18 gig? >>>>> >>>>> Aren't there any 5.8 systems that will do this reliably in the first >> >>>>> place? >>>>> I shouldn't need 5.x for distribution so I could use it all for >>>>> backhaul. >>>>> I'll have 2.4, 3.65, 4.9 and hopefully, someday, TVBD for the >> consumers. >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Brian Webster" <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:44 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The 5.8 GHz backup links will help you deal with outages due to >>>>> environmental conditions such as rain fade. That has to be factored >>>>> in for links when you operate above 10 GHz. Even if you run a loop >>>>> configuration you could have a fade condition that could block out a >> >>>>> whole tower site severing your links to that location in both >>>>> directions of your loop. >>>>> Another path at a lower frequency with spatial diversity from your >>>>> primary link (different mounting heights) would at least keep that >>>>> site up though maybe not at full speed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank You, >>>>> Brian Webster >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >>>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:26 AM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Do you think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire >>>>> network is build in a circle? >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop. >>>>> Figure $15,000 per link for everything. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> Microserv >>>>> >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to 20 miles. >>>>> Some links may be less, but I'm not counting on that. >>>>> >>>>> I'll be hauling public safety, private vpns, and normal internet >>>>> traffic. >>>>> >>>>> I'll probably have around 20 towers, all linked in a ring. I can >>>>> load share across the ring as long as speeds never drop below >>>>> 100megs. I'll want things to be automatically self healing if there >> >>>>> is a loss of connectivity in any direction. >>>>> >>>>> What would you guys use/suggest? >>>>> >>>>> I'd love to go licensed (but no 6 gig due to antenna sizes) but >>>>> unlicensed may be OK due to the failover capabilities. >>>>> >>>>> We have to worry about snow, fog and, worst of all, dust storms. >>>>> >>>>> What gear would you use? How would you set this up? >>>>> >>>>> I'm in the pricing stage so off list quotes etc. are welcome. 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