We have hot spot roaming agreements with some of our local competitors. It's not the full monty you're describing, but it does mean that a subscriber on competitor A can log onto my network without paying any additional fees and vice versa.
Right now we don't do any settlement because it's not worth it-just saying we can do it helps each of us enough to make it worthwhile. Chuck On Mar 6, 2009, at 10:23 PM, John Scrivner wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote: >> This is an interesting idea.... >> >> But, different operating frequency's, different proprietary >> equipment, I'm >> not sure it is practical. One of my 'neighbors' uses Canopy on >> 900MHz. >> Another is using Trango on 900MHz, I think. Another is 2.4GHz >> 802.11b/g. I >> use 2.4GHz, some b/g, some proprietary, some 900MHz proprietary, >> 5.8GHz >> Netstream... The list goes on... > > That is just another symptom of the problem. This group refuses to > standardize on anything. Congrats when we all "innovate" ourselves > into obscurity. Without standardization we will never have roaming or > mobility. Are we really all still so small-minded as to think we can > survive as little islands of innovators without integrating standards > based roaming and mobility as part of the systems we all deploy going > forward? What is your long term goal? To be a stop-gap until the > future "Rural Broadband Act of 20XX" where the government finally runs > a fiber to every place where there is a phone line and a power > service? It will happen. > >> >> mobile users go with a cell carrier and accept the high costs and low >> speeds. > > Until 2011 when I predict the cellular carriers will be reporting more > wireless broadband subs than the total WISP industry marketshare > combined. Mobility and roaming are not just neat toys. They are THE > market differentiators for wireless broadband and this group largely > has their collective head in the sand. Patrick Leary got it for a > while and then for some reason "un" learned the facts. I certainly > hope I am wrong so you guys can all make me buy you a beer someday > when I am then found to be mentally deficient. Something tells me this > group simply chooses not to look at the future in a realistic way. I > genuinely hope I am wrong. I guess the questions I have for this group > is, "Why not accept that I may be right? What harm is there in > attempting to build mobility and roaming into our networks around > standards? Would this not simply add more value to our networks?" > Scriv > > > >> >> John Scrivner wrote: >> >> Sadly WISPs have dragged their feet in development of true mobility >> and roaming. These features are the true differentiators of wireless >> broadband over DSL or DOCSIS. The cellular industry is more quickly >> adapting to the need to move to an IP centric platform for their >> mobile voice/data systems than we are in recognizing the compelling >> desire of everyone to have everything available to them everywhere >> with mobility. Land lines are going away and wireless MOBILE phones >> are increasing in quantity. WISPs may well lose out in the end if >> they >> do not band together to form interoperability standards for mobile >> IP, >> VoIP, roaming, etc. Last I checked there is not a single WISPA member >> network out there which is fully mobile with integrated roaming with >> another operator. Until WISPs do this they are doomed to a future >> of a >> decreasing position in the future of broadband industry market share. >> I predict that total customer counts served via traditional WISPs >> will >> max within 18 months and then down turn if we do not address the >> issues of roaming and mobility. If any of you have built a truly good >> mobility roaming gateway solution which allows for WISPs to tie their >> networks together and offer mobility then I welcome some feedback on >> the subject. What about truly mobile and roaming capable voice >> services over IP? Anyone out there ever build the equivalent of the >> ASN gateway for our networks? I am ready to start negotiating >> connection to this and right now we do not even have access to >> anything to connect to. >> Scriv >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Scott Parsons <sc...@e-zy.net> >> wrote: >> >> >> This was very interesting: >> >> http://www.muniwireless.com/2009/02/03/muni-wifi-outperforms-cellular-and-wi >> max/ >> >> Way to go WISPS! >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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