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I just remembered that the FCC website has a page where you can submit
questions and they email you an answer. I tried it last year and I got
my answer back in 5 days. Also, the answers go into a database so other
people who come along with the same question later can benefit from
your answer. rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Of course, Jack. Part of what adds up to confusion is that there's always questions that come up that don't have particularly clear answers by just reading the rules.And the rules are very short and to the point. It's easy to read them (the ones for 3650) through in a relatively short period of time, and yet still have answers. That's when "interpretation" of the rules comes into play, often in a very technological context, and I'd say a lawyer's not going to be a lot of help, unless he's technically at engineer level, and I'm not sure that all the FCC personell have been even asked all the questions, yet, that us creative types can dream up. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <insert witty tagline here> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Unger" <jun...@ask-wi.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptpAs I see it, there are two sources of information on FCC matters. 1. Those people (onlist) who have the most experience with an issue (be it 3.65 or any other issue). Experience still adds up to knowledge. Anything less is just guessing. Put your faith in those that you trust who have experience with an issue, whatever the issue is. 2. Your FCC attorney. FCC matters are, at base, a matter of law. jack rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I dunno who to ask, I think even if you ask the FCC you might get a slightly muddled answer. I just used exactly what was certified including the enclosure used, and followed the rest of the requirements as best I could. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <insert witty tagline here> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Carullo" <sc...@brevardwireless.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp Who has the final word on this? I've been told by testing laboratories that do testing for the FCC that this is not the case... They said if the radio card (5Ghz when I asked but for this discussion it doesn't matter) had been approved with an antenna then you could use the same or less db like antenna and you were good to go - assuming the card manufacturer (like ubiquity) had had appropriate testing completed and filed with FCC. It sure is difficult for any of us to make heads or tales out of what can or can't be done because everyone has a different opinion - even the people at the top of the food chain I guess. Who's right? And how am I supposed to know? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 -------- Original Message -------- From: "Harold Bledsoe" <hbled...@deliberant.net> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 2:21 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp I think the confusion on this comes from the fact that for the P90 licensing process, only the transmitter information is collected. Remember that even with Part 90 devices, they still must comply with Part 15 requirements for unintentional radiators. This is covered with a Declaration of Conformity for the system typically. So the previous example of the XR3 + ARC + RB411 + PoE (sic) is technically only legal if it meets all Part 90 requirements (which it should according to the test report on file at the FCC) as well as Part 15 requirements for unintentional radiators. In this case, a Declaration of Conformity should be on file at the assembler's location. This is why the label is important. This kind of system built from modular components should include a label with a manufacturer name/model number, the contains FCC ID: xxxxxx, and the 2 required statements about unintentional interference. This information tells anyone including the FCC who to contact for intentional emission issues (P-90 in this example) as well as unintentional emission issues (P-15 in this case). If there is no label on there, then it is illegal by default. Then if there are problems with the intentional radiator, it is the module maker's problem (assuming the integration instructions were followed properly). Finally if there are problems with the unintentional emissions, it is the system assembler's problem. I know, I know....this is a licensed, Part 90 band. So why does Part 15 even matter? Simply put, P-90 covers the transmitter, P-15 covers the rest of the crap spewing from the device in the rest of the spectrum. :-) -Hal -----Original Message----- From: David E. Smith <d...@mvn.net> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 ptp Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:05:36 GMT My system is fully licensed. How did you get your combination of "XR3 + Routerboard 400 series + Mikrotik RouterOS 3.x + whatever antenna" certified? What's the process like, and how much did it cost?Or did you just buy the kit from someone else who went through the certification process? If so, from whom? I'd be willing to pay a small premium over the price of "all those parts" just to avoid the legal heat.David SmithMVN.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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