It's just how Trango designed the Giga.  As I mentioned in an off list
email, the "modem" that calculates the Giga's RSSI is located in the IDU and
not the ODU.  This is why the IF cable is so critical with the Giga.  There
were/are reasons why Trango designed the Giga this way (regarding future
product enhancements utilizing multiple "modems" in the IDU for greater
throughput capacity), but it would be best that you take it up with Trango
if you are interested in that.

You need to know what your expected RSSI for the path is supposed to be.
That doesn't mean the link will always end up there, but it gives you a
starting point.  For example we have a link that one end is behind a metal
based glass.  That link is about 10db off from expected RSSI due to the
glass attenuation.  Once we accounted for this by adjusting our target rssi
we have a much more solid link.

The bottom line is, while it may be frustrating for the first time Giga user
to get their initial Giga up and running the Giga has proven itself as a
solid product.  We have several deployed, continue to order them and have
been pleased with their performance. 

Yes, the Apex is an all ODU design and while we haven't deployed an Apex
yet, I understand the configuration is a bit more simple.  We expect to have
a couple Apex's on hand in the next week or two and I'll know a lot more
about the Apex once we have them hung.

Best,


Brad





-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 2:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

That's why I asked, it doesn't completely explain how it works, for
example

Rssi on end 1 is -39 , mse is -30 targetrssi is -39

Why in the heck if I change the target rssi to -35, the "real rssi
changes too??? To -35 ...?!?!?! MSE still is -30

I have not changed the power on the other end and atpc is off ...wtf? 

BTW: The Apex being an all outdoor unit, it's the same? Got the Apex
user manual handy?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brad Belton
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 11:03 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

MSE concept explained on Page 18 of the manual or page 20 of this pdf...

How is the link looking now after adjusting power, target rssi and cable
loss settings?


Best,


Brad


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

How the mse would show interference? 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:41 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem

Also, don't assume its not interference. Licensed gets interference to.
If your MSE is showing Interference its very possible that is exactly
what you are having.
You may need to briefly/temporarilly change channels to verifiy.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem


> Going to need lots more info to be able to help.
>
> Cable run length and type of cable used.
> What is your expected RSSI per your path analysis What is your 
> targetrssi set to What are your cableloss settings What is your power 
> set to Run a link 10 command from both sides and provide results What 
> version software are you running on both sides
>
> Maybe the best thing to do is run a sysinfo command on both ends and
send 
> me
> the results off list.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem
>
> I have a 2 mile 18 ghz link using Trango Giga, Im starting to drop 
> packets, auto rate has dropped speed to qpsk, still MSE and BER is
being
> affected sometimes on one end or both ...ATPC is on, rssi is -35 on
both
> ends
>
> anyway to tell where the problem is?
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
> g...@aeronetpr.com
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>
>
>
>
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