Huh? We incorporated in 1997 and I think total cost was less than $500. How do you ever expect to get away from having to do personal guarantees if you don't operate like a "real" business?

Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
One more thing.  I don't agree with your definitions per se'.

We all have businesses.  A proprietorship is a TYPE of business.  We are a 
proprietorship because I'm not incorporated (incorporating is over rated and 
expensive to do right).  I'm still a business though....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_proprietorship

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset

marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Wu" <c...@cticonnect.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability


  
Hi Marlon,

I think it's appropriate to make a few definitions and distinctions on 
things so everyone is on the same page

Specifically, for purposes of making my point, I define

Proprietorship: A commercial activity engaged in as a means of livelihood 
or profit

Business: A unique system of processes and procedures that documents and 
codifies a specific method of proprietorship

Asset: cash, inventory, equipment, infrastructure, customer contracts, 
brand, marketing, etc

    
Grin.  Sure it is.  That's what a LOT of small business people do.  It's
also kind of common for doctors, dentists, plumbers etc....  Sometimes it
sucks,
      
Now, everything you stated above is just a method of proprietorship, and 
in most cases, from a sale perspective, a proprietorships isn't worth 
anything more than the depreciated value of its assets

Say you were buying out the local plumber's office -- what would he have 
of value?  His truck?  Some old tools?  A customer list / brand perhaps 
(but the reality of things is that customers do business with him because 
of him, and if you bought him out and he moved out of town, those 
customers would probably go back to being on the open market)

Now, in comparing the WISP 'proprietorship' vs. the plumber, it's worth 
noting that the WISP is somewhat unique in that it results in the creation 
of an independent asset that holds onto a lot of value (e.g., the 
recurring revenue and everything that goes to support it); in many ways, 
this is akin to real-estate

    
Not
everyone out there even wants to get that big (if I had a nickle for every
business owner that's told me the most fun they had and the most money 
they
made was when it was just them, no employees......)  But then again, 
that's
one of the really cool things about this buisness, it's big enough and
flexible enough to allow many different business models and operator 
dreams
to bear fuit!
      
True...and you have the added benefit of building an asset that has value 
(be happy we're not plumbers =)

-Charles





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