Scottie,

I obviously agree with you. Curious though - why would you say there
was a need for bandwidth based pricing before 1997? The was very
little broadband then and bandwidth was not an issue. Busy signals on
modem pools were.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Scottie Arnett<sarn...@info-ed.com> wrote:
>
> I have been saying bandwidth pricing is the way to go since I first read 
> Marlon's articles on wireless access way before 1997, probably around 2001 
> when I was still only providing Dial-Up and dreaming about wireless. I mean 
> bandwidth pricing on everything, transfer would pretty much sum it all up, or 
> for the intellectually inclined, any data that moves across your network.
>
> My feelings are that the all you can eat buffet that AOL and a few others put 
> out there ruined it for any BBS, network provider, or any Internet Service 
> Provider. Then the US gov't came in behind and made it worse with the 
> Tauzin-Dingell Act that pretty much got rid of "line sharing" and left 
> everyone out in the cold at-that-time but Ilec's and Clec's. It stuck in the 
> consumers mind and that it is still what they want today.
>
> The only problem is that the BIG PROVIDERS are still feeding off it. How can 
> we reasonably compete when they are still fueling the fire? I guess it maters 
> where your competition is(if you have any) and how they sit on the subject. 
> To make matters worse, the gov't wants their hands in it with net neutrality 
> and they did not do crap to build out the networks we have had for years! 
> Finally, Comcast, Frontier, and Time Warner announced something to combat the 
> buffet, and the gov't had to stick their noses where they did not belong! I 
> have heard different things that the cable and telco's are supported somewhat 
> by gov't subsides but they should leave their nose out of our private 
> networks. If the gov't helped build it, in my opinion they are more than 
> welcome to stick their nose in....although it may hurt all independent 
> service providers.
>
> just spewing,
> Scottie
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date:  Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:10:31 -0400
>
>>Yes, I've been saying bandwidth based pricing is the ultimate way to
>>go since 1997. The question is: what is the best & easiest way to do
>>it?
>>-RickG
>>
>>On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com> 
>>wrote:
>>> We have an online backup program.  It hasn't been very popular yet.
>>>
>>> We also bill per bit.  Let them do those huge backups.  I make money on them
>>> too!  grin
>>>
>>> If they do the backups on MY system they do NOT pay the per bit fees.
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:39 AM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] On-line back-up
>>>
>>>
>>>> Is anybody doing anything about the on-line back-up programs like
>>>> Mosy and Carbonite?  I tend to think it's a good use of technology,
>>>> but some users seem to back-up their entire hard drives and use half
>>>> a meg for hours and days until it's done.  Is that the intent, entire
>>>> drive?  Or do I have a bunch of unsophisticated users?
>>>>
>>>> Seems wrong too that a company can make money off using MY bandwidth
>>>> for hours on end with no compensation.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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