I think it was Earthlink that did have a technology by which they could see the different MACs behind a router. I wish I could remember how they said it worked. They did tell me that at the time, they were not worrying about how many computers were behind your NAT.
Ralph -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings Not seen a single solution that can do that. That is the functionality of NAT to hide what is behind it. I take advantage of it all the time when I'm staying in hotels. Use my own AP that allows my wifi enabled devices access and connect to the hotels system and I'm paying a single fee for the hotel that charges for internet. Only way to "fight" it in a MTU type environment or even with residential is educate the users and strike some fear into them that if they run open APs they could get in trouble if the others that piggy back on it does illegal things such as copyrighted filesharing, illegal p0rn or simply are virus infected and they this way risk getting infected and have their own computers compromised and become BOT slaves. Plus also let them know that they are paying for specific service speeds and if they let others use it a lot for free then themselves no longer have the speed for themselves and also possible point to the bit cap portion of the user agreement letting them know that their account could possibly be shut down prematurely because someone else is using up all their allow bit count. Some students will not care and there might be two apartment that even share the cost of the service and then you cannot do much about it besides maybe limit per connections etc to choke them out. What we do at one location (granted all pre-wired) is that the landlord is paying a small fee each month but then we provide free internet to the tenants just fast enough to work for a individual doing normal web browsing but then we also provide upgrade service on a for pay basis. The people that pay tend to be greedy and want it all to themselves ;) /Eje -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 9:56 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings Mikrotik Hotspot does NOT have the capability of catching people behind NAT. Example: Joe buys a WRT54g. WRT54g bridges to the paid wireless network. Joe buys and account via laptop plugged into WRT54g. Joe plus in an AP behind the router and broadcasts ESSID "Free Internet". People mooch. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Scott Carullo <sc...@brevardwireless.com>wrote: > Mikrotik Hotspot between them and the internet.... > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: "Joe Laura" <joela...@superior1.com> > > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:17 PM > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apartment Buildings > > > > I had a nightmare trying to do apartment complexes. I thought I touched > on a > > goldmine when all the signups started comming in. Then as tennants > started > > firing up their own A/P's others would connect to them and cancel > service. > > How are youll dealing with this? 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