I do the same.  Install above the overhang and at the highest part of the roof.  Remember, the highest part of the roof has the least amount of water running over it.  So, less water, and even if it did leak it would drip into the overhang, not living area.

Brian

RickG wrote:
The facia is even better but since the discusion was roof mounting as
a last resort I meant that if you must drill into the shingles, do it
directly above the soffit.
-RickG

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Josh
Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
  
Rick - you mean install on the fascia, not the roof.  Correct?

On 8/29/09, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
    
I mean dont drill holes anywhere else on top of the roof - just the
area above the soffit. That way if it happens to leak it will drip
straight down through the soffit to the ground.

The suggestion was correct and is what I do - place coax seal on the
screw and between the mount & roof. Never had one leak yet and I've
been doing installs since '97. Some of my installers a lot longer.

-RickG

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Josh
Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
      
What do you mean stay above the soffit?  Sounds kind of impossible to
mount
below it when you're mounting on the roof.

The suggestion I had from the past is to use my favorite material (coax
seal) on the tip of the screw before you start drilling.  This puts the
sealer in the threads (name?) and a bit below the head, preventing
anything
from going through the hole.  I do not do this, though I have not needed
to
and the person that did this is not installing for me anymore (he moved on
to what he really wanted, knew this from years back).

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On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:52 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

        
Ya, sometimes you just have to mount on roof. Last resort of course. I
was trained by career satellite installers. The trick is putting seal
down and running the screws through it. Also, stay above the soffit. I
always get the home owners permission.

On the brick, I use mortar screws. They work great.

So Marlon - you like the Bosch better than the Dewalt?
-RickG

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com>
wrote:
          
We mount to the roof when we have to.  Last resort but there are times
            
when
          
it's the only option.

We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that.  Never
had
            
a
          
leak.  People have been mounting things on roofs for a very very long
            
time.
          
As for brick, we use GOOD plastic anchors and longer screws than they
            
would
          
normally have.  None have fallen off yet.  When running the cable I
drill
the anchor holes into the mortar instead of the brick.

I finally broke down and bought a nearly top of the line Bosch hammer
            
drill.
          
The DeWalt cordless is nice, but it's not really capable of dealing
with
high end brick or concrete.

laters,
marlon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions


What's so bad about brick?  I would imagine there is lags made for it
(not the mortor).  've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to
tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage.

On 8/28/09, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
            
I agree,  I will never again install on a roof.  That cost me money
              
once,
          
not again.  Can't even tell you how many homeowners have thanked us
for
not
installing on the roof.  They hate their satellite dish being up there
              
and
          
are willing to pay extra for anything to keep it off the roof.  What I
hate
is brick homes. No way to mount no way to run cable and for some
reason
those are always the people who have their computers on an inside
wall,
are
tighter than ticks and don't want to pay for anything but the standard
install.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through
experience
of
trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared,
              
ambition
          
inspired, and success achieved.
- Helen Keller


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Robert West
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don't!

Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no
              
matter
          
if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the shingles already.
 Too
many
people out to "gotcha".  And the ones who ask to see our liability
insurance
before we do anything.......  Red flags!  They turn out to be
              
nightmares,
          
we
get permission in writing from those folks for every hole drilled.



-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

Tripods like roof hole making tripods?

On 8/27/09, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net> wrote:
              
I guess I'm just old fashioned using tripods and 10 ft masts. Channel
master. Tripods are $18 and masts are $11. We charge $30 for the
                
tripods
          
and $15 for 10ft mast including install.

Brian

Scott Reed wrote:
                
4" length of strut at the peak.
5' length of strut down where ever it falls on the eaves.
Strut pipe clamp to fit pipe.

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Mike wrote:

                  
'splain please!  How is that configured? Thanks.

At 10:50 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:


                    
... We now mount 2 pieces of 1-5/8"
Unistrut with 1/4" lags and clamp the pipe to it.


                      

                    
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