I've got the same issues here. I used 900MHz on one tower in the hills
& forest. Used Mirotik but the cost is way too high for most.
-RickG

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Mark McElvy<mmce...@accubak.com> wrote:
> Trees an terrain. We have 50-60 ft Oak trees very dense. Terrain varies
> from 1200 ft in town to 1100-1400 all around. Tried some 900 but had
> trouble getting it to work well.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
>
>
>
> That is a lot of questions but I bet I can answer with one word.
> Terrain.
>
> Brian
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Wow that's a lot of extra work per install!  How high/far are your APs
> and what band are you using that needs this extra effort?
>
> On 8/30/09, Mark McElvy <mmce...@accubak.com>
> <mailto:mmce...@accubak.com>  wrote:
>
>
>        If I did not mount on roofs I would not do many installs, most
> of my
>        installs consist of 3ft tripod with 10ft mast or 30ft mast on
> roof peak
>        with guy wires.
>
>        Mark
>
>        -----Original Message-----
>        From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>        Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>        Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM
>        To: WISPA General List
>        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
>
>        We mount to the roof when we have to.  Last resort but there are
> times
>        when
>        it's the only option.
>
>        We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that.
> Never
>        had a
>        leak.  People have been mounting things on roofs for a very very
> long
>        time.
>
>        As for brick, we use GOOD plastic anchors and longer screws than
> they
>        would
>        normally have.  None have fallen off yet.  When running the
> cable I
>        drill
>        the anchor holes into the mortar instead of the brick.
>
>        I finally broke down and bought a nearly top of the line Bosch
> hammer
>        drill.
>        The DeWalt cordless is nice, but it's not really capable of
> dealing with
>
>        high end brick or concrete.
>
>        laters,
>        marlon
>
>        ----- Original Message -----
>        From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>        To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>        Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM
>        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
>
>
>        What's so bad about brick?  I would imagine there is lags made
> for it
>        (not the mortor).  've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to
>        tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage.
>
>        On 8/28/09, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com>
> <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>  wrote:
>
>
>                I agree,  I will never again install on a roof.  That
> cost me money
>
>
>        once,
>
>
>                not again.  Can't even tell you how many homeowners have
> thanked us
>
>
>        for
>
>
>                not
>                installing on the roof.  They hate their satellite dish
> being up there
>
>
>        and
>
>
>                are willing to pay extra for anything to keep it off the
> roof.  What I
>
>
>                hate
>                is brick homes. No way to mount no way to run cable and
> for some
>
>
>        reason
>
>
>                those are always the people who have their computers on
> an inside
>
>
>        wall,
>
>
>                are
>                tighter than ticks and don't want to pay for anything
> but the standard
>                install.
>
>                Steve Barnes
>                Manager
>                PCS-WIN
>                RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>                Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only
> through
>
>
>        experience
>
>
>                of
>                trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision
> cleared,
>
>
>        ambition
>
>
>                inspired, and success achieved.
>                - Helen Keller
>
>
>                -----Original Message-----
>                From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>
>
>        On
>
>
>                Behalf Of Robert West
>                Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 AM
>                To: 'WISPA General List'
>                Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
>
>                I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just
> don't!
>
>                Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet
> guys fault no
>
>
>        matter
>
>
>                if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the
> shingles already.
>
>
>        Too
>
>
>                many
>                people out to "gotcha".  And the ones who ask to see our
> liability
>                insurance
>                before we do anything.......  Red flags!  They turn out
> to be
>
>
>        nightmares,
>
>
>                we
>                get permission in writing from those folks for every
> hole drilled.
>
>
>
>                -----Original Message-----
>                From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>
>
>        On
>
>
>                Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>                Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:21 PM
>                To: WISPA General List
>                Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions
>
>                Tripods like roof hole making tripods?
>
>                On 8/27/09, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net>
> <mailto:br...@reliableinter.net>  wrote:
>
>
>                        I guess I'm just old fashioned using tripods and
> 10 ft masts. Channel
>                        master. Tripods are $18 and masts are $11. We
> charge $30 for the
>
>
>        tripods
>
>
>                        and $15 for 10ft mast including install.
>
>                        Brian
>
>                        Scott Reed wrote:
>
>
>                                4" length of strut at the peak.
>                                5' length of strut down where ever it
> falls on the eaves.
>                                Strut pipe clamp to fit pipe.
>
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>                                Mike wrote:
>
>
>
>                                'splain please!  How is that configured?
> Thanks.
>
>                                At 10:50 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>
>
>                                ... We now mount 2 pieces of 1-5/8"
>                                Unistrut with 1/4" lags and clamp the
> pipe to it.
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