Anyone else had a chance to play with MPLS much on the mikrotiks? Having read the wiki article* about using MPLS to bridge two networks (instead of WDS or EoIP) I have tried it on a new link I put up. So far so good. I think I need to play with the MTU settings a bit more to optimize it. What I'm wondering is if Mikrotik MPLS can be used as a load balancing method on dual radios, where OSPF routing may not be appropriate.
http://www.nil.com/ipcorner/LoadSharingTE explores a couple load balancing approaches, including MPLS on Cisco. Anyone confident enough in their MPLS skills to try to make this work on Mikrotik wireless links? Seems like it could combine benefits of the ospf method with transparent bridging. Randy * Wiki link: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Transparently_Bridge_two_Networks_using_MPLS Josh Luthman wrote: > Good for weeks or months. Terrible for a long term link. > > Have Butch set it up in a few minutes or read the documentation and get it > going yourself. Well worth it. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Robert West > <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > > >> Yeah, locks up. But again, I haven't tried it but from what I've read I'll >> pass on it. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:03 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >> >> >>> It tends to fall on its face at times although I never tried it for >>> >> myself. >> >> What is "it"? Referring to dual nstreme? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Robert West >> <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: >> >> >>> I've heard the same thing over in the Mikrotik forums. The solution they >>> had is the same as Josh here says. It tends to fall on its face at times >>> although I never tried it for myself. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:26 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >>> >>> I am suggesting don't use dual nstreme as it causes lock ups. >>> >>> Use OSPF to create a pseudo FDX bridge between two links. Personally >>> >> done >> >>> with 1 RB and 2 radios on each side, but could work with 1 RB and four >>> bullets/comparable (just need to make sure they're true bridges). >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Dennis Burgess >>> <dmburg...@linktechs.net>wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Don't know what that means? I am assuming that you had some lockups >>>> while using dual nstream. Don't think that was part of the >>>> conversation. I was just saying that doing a Full Duplex OSPF or >>>> Static-Routed link is well documented. >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org >>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>>> WISPA Vendor Member >>>> Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>>> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training >>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS" >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>> >> On >> >>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:12 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >>>> >>>> So the three lock ups on my links while using dual nstreme were just a >>>> coincidentally solved by changing the config..? >>>> >>>> On 9/17/09, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OSPF Full duplex is no biggy, anyone can do it and is well >>>>> >> documented, >> >>>>> but I don't think he needs that. I would just put up a link and be >>>>> happy! Keep in mind, installation is key to a quality and reliable >>>>> link! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>> >>>> On >>>> >>>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:39 PM >>>>> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >>>>> >>>>> Assuming you can get 40mhz of 5ghz spectrum and not need it anymore, >>>>> MT is great and it's cheap. Finding that 40mhz is your major concern. >>>>> >>>>> I am running two backhauls, each with two pairs of radios (that's >>>>> 40mhz of spectrum) and they're 99% awesome. Don't use the 532/333 >>>>> (433ah IMO) or dual nstreme (use Butch's pseudo fdx OSPF) and you'll >>>>> get that .999%. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/16/09, Scott Carullo <sc...@brevardwireless.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Marlon, >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't seen every post on this thread but have been keeping eye >>>>>> >> on >> >>>>> it at >>>>> >>>>>> a distance... >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would you not want to use a MT solution for about $500 for the >>>>>> >>>>> link >>>>> >>>>>> with the ability to easily go 30/60MB depending on 20/40Mhz channel. >>>>>> >>>>> I'd >>>>> >>>>>> say its proven there are a multitude of people that use the gear for >>>>>> backhaul on this list and any of them will tell you its a solid >>>>>> >>>>> performer. >>>>> >>>>>> Is it the absolute most reliable rock solid gear available? Depends >>>>>> >>>>> who >>>>> >>>>>> you ask. I've had MT gear running I've forgotten about for many >>>>>> >>>> years >>>> >>>>>> without a hickup. Also had some that has to be replaced a bit more >>>>>> >>>>> than >>>>> >>>>>> other solutions might need to be due to ethernet sensitiity - >>>>>> >> depends >> >>>>> on >>>>> >>>>>> how & where its installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, considering the alternative prices you could get an awful lot >>>>>> >>>>> more for >>>>> >>>>>> your money with this solution. You could even put in two radios on >>>>>> >>>>> each >>>>> >>>>>> side and link them together using on of many different ways for >>>>>> >>>>> redundancy >>>>> >>>>>> - still at a fraction of the cost of other solutions. >>>>>> >>>>>> The positive side is your price range is very realistic for that >>>>>> >>>>> throughput >>>>> >>>>>> - you have many good solid choices you won't go wrong with most of >>>>>> >>>>> which >>>>> >>>>>> has been discussed on this list already. I'll give you one more... >>>>>> >>>> I >>>> >>>>> have >>>>> >>>>>> an external trango Atlas link coming down in about a week I can part >>>>>> >>>>> with >>>>> >>>>>> ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott Carullo >>>>>> Brevard Wireless >>>>>> 321-205-1100 x102 >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:57 PM >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Uh, guys, this is interesting. But it doesn't answer the original >>>>>>> >>>>>> question! >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have a need for a 100meg full duplex backhaul solution. 20 >>>>>>> >>>>> megs >>>>> >>>>>>> both ways will do just fine for now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What ideas do y'all have for a 20+ meg backhaul solution. >>>>>>> >> Something >> >>>>> less >>>>> >>>>>>> than $3000 if it's at all possible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know about the MT gear. I''ve already used one. And I REALLY >>>>>>> >>>> like >>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>>> Airaya gear it'll replace. I'm just wondering what people are >>>>>>> >> using >> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>>>> liking. I don't want any unproven brand new gear. Or something >>>>>>> >>>> too >>>> >>>>>> cheap >>>>>> >>>>>>> like an 802.11a ap and client setup. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Butch Evans" <but...@butchevans.com> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:53 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:22 -0400, ralph wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell from the FCC info, only 2 routerboards have >>>>>>>>> >>>>> any >>>>> >>>>>> FCC >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Part 15 Class A or B computing device approval. >>>>>>>>> They are the Crossroads and the RB411- both of which already >>>>>>>>> >> have >> >>>>> on >>>>> >>>>>>>>> board >>>>>>>>> wireless. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are half correct. The Crossroads does have a built-in radio. >>>>>>>> >>>>> The >>>>> >>>>>>>> RB411 does not. 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