Sorry, catching up on today's NCIS reruns.  Northern Illinois.

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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:14 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software

> I actually asked where - not what - but I was under the impression you 
> meant
> trees =P
>
> Delorm was pretty good - costly but you can keep the maps locally IIRC.
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> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
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>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Mike Hammett 
> <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote:
>
>> Corn and soybeans.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:32 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software
>>
>> > That's a lot of green...where is this?
>> >
>> > On 9/24/09, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>> >> Large green patches wouldn't work here.  From May - September,
>> everything
>> >> in
>> >> 300 miles is green.  ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----
>> >> Mike Hammett
>> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> http://www.ics-il.com
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:03 PM
>> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software
>> >>
>> >>> I was holding this chunk of Organite and praying for such a thing and
>> >>> now
>> >>> here it is.
>> >>>
>> >>> Spooky.
>> >>>
>> >>> Get ready for the list, Shaddi.
>> >>>
>> >>> For one, this browser based software should not depend on the 
>> >>> internet,
>> >>> yes?
>> >>> The term browser speaks internet to me.  If I'm out in the field 
>> >>> trying
>> >>> to
>> >>> figure out a link I obviously don't have internet there.  Not that I
>> see
>> >>> myself out in the middle of a corn field with my laptop trying to
>> figure
>> >>> it
>> >>> out but hey, who knows.
>> >>>
>> >>> The basics of course is terrain and elevation but I'd like to see how 
>> >>> a
>> >>> link
>> >>> over water is taken into account rolled into the thing.
>> >>>
>> >>> I also have to guess at trees.  If I'm only able to get 70 feet or so
>> up
>> >>> and
>> >>> the trees around here are also around 70 feet, it might say yes but 
>> >>> the
>> >>> trees would say no.  Could it possibly have a variable where you 
>> >>> could
>> >>> set
>> >>> an average height for stands of trees?  Where I am at, Southern Ohio,
>> >>> all
>> >>> the patches of trees are pretty much a single average height.  If the
>> >>> software could distinguish a large green patch as trees and you tell
>> the
>> >>> software that the average height is whatever, it could possibly add
>> that
>> >>> height to the land elevation.  Would be good to have a database of
>> >>> various
>> >>> antennas and radios to pull from as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey!  IDEA!  A new game, Wireless Internet Tycoon!!!  What do ya 
>> >>> think?
>> >>> I've kinda ran off the rails here, sorry.....
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> You want a wish list?  Grab some paper, pal.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> >>> Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:37 PM
>> >>> To: WISPA General List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link Planning Software
>> >>>
>> >>> Howdy WISPA!
>> >>>
>> >>> Just joined today but wanted to chime in -- some students here at UNC
>> >>> Chapel
>> >>> Hill are working on a browser-based link planning tool as a semester
>> >>> project. It will be released as open-source at the end of the 
>> >>> semester,
>> >>> so
>> >>> we'd like it to be useful not only for our projects but for the
>> >>> community
>> >>> at
>> >>> large. While primarily geared towards community wireless projects, 
>> >>> it'd
>> >>> be
>> >>> great if it could be useful for the professional WISP community. So, 
>> >>> if
>> >>> you
>> >>> have any feedback on what features you'd like to see in such a tool,
>> >>> lessons
>> >>> you all have learned that should be incorporated into its design, or
>> the
>> >>> concept generally, please contact me.
>> >>>
>> >>> To the OP, check back in December and we might have something to 
>> >>> offer
>> >>> you!
>> >>>
>> >>> Shaddi
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Robert West
>> >>> <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> What are you folks using to verify the viability of a link before 
>> >>>> you
>> >>>> plan
>> >>>> the build?  I've tried using Radio Mobile but I'll be darned if I
>> can't
>> >>> get
>> >>>> that thing to work even with the step by step instructions.  I've 
>> >>>> been
>> >>>> finding myself just plotting elevations all the way along the link 
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> Google
>> >>>> Earth.  Sucks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyone using a good software app that will plot the links and give 
>> >>>> me
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> easy thumbs up or thumbs down?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sorry to be a pain with all these questions.  It's been too hectic 
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> just don't have the time to sit for 2 days evaluating crap software.
>> >>>> I'd
>> >>>> rather be told what's good by real users.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Organite.  It's not just for breakfast anymore."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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