I agree. I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every install online so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at. Not so for me at the moment.
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if it's another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the resident is gone. Get paperwork that allows you to do so. Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it penetrates the wall and the POE. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net < jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: > inline > > Mark Nash wrote: > > I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business. > > > > 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even the least > > expensive MPoP? > > 1 > I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not have a laptop. > They > need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I manage it, they > have > ZERO access to it) > > The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out some > user/pass) is > to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware. > > > > > 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs devalues > my > > business to a prospective buyer. > > Why? > > > > > 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a problem for tech > > support (we have 700 customers and 3 techs...not everyone knows what each > > installation looks like or how it's connected necessarily). > > Documentation! > I have found that pictures of >every< install is a must. I have a place > where I > store everything (other then just my brain!) even tho I am still in the one > man > shop stages with this one. I keep every firmware, every application, reams > of > note pads, etc. I distill it down every so often. The one thing I am > missing > most )and am working on fixing that) is a GOOD network resource map setup. > > > > > I think this is good discussion... > > > > Just because you CAN do it, SHOULD you do it. > > > > Depends on a few factors... > > > > 1. Do I need/want to make money any which way I can? > > Yes! =) > > OK OK, no bank robberies. > > > > > 2. How much do I put into a MPoP (battery backup vs. power outage & no > > access to AP if its host is on vacation) > > Thats easy. How often is power out? I have full site access (roof) and > everything is there. I will be adding out door mounted UPS's as it makes > sense > to. For the most part, when power is out here, everyone is with out. In > years > the only power outage that did not take >everyone< out let us know there > was a > issue with one of the primary UPS's. APC and it had no idea the battery was > bad > till after the power failed. > > > > > 3. Do I plan to sell my business and if I do should I stick to > traditional > > "inside-the-box" installations? > > Right now, I do not plan to sell (no way would I get out what I have put in > time > wise). Would I ever sell? Sure its on the table but right now I can not > demand > the price I would need to move on to bigger/better projects. I expect that > to > change some day. > > "inside the box" oh man. I had a convo with a SBC rep once. DS3 port $2000, > 700ft to cross the street $28K. Wireless? to quote "That (roof access) is > to far > out side the box". This is 10 years ago. > > > On a side, I play the lotto and fiddle with numbers and burn $5/mo or so in > tickets. Its a hobby and it pays off often enough to fund itself. If I were > to > ever 'win big' I would do this for free, I simply love doing it. Yes, I am > certifiable. > > > > > > Mark Nash > > UnwiredWest > > 78 Centennial Loop > > Suite E > > Eugene, OR 97401 > > 541-998-5555 > > 541-998-5599 fax > > http://www.unwiredwest.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops > > > > > >> I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and bullets > >> for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible). > >> -RickG > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy <mmce...@accubak.com> > wrote: > >>> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to redistribute > >>> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a full > >>> blown AP/BH setup. Any one else doing this? I normally use 5.8 for BH > >>> typically and 2.4 for clients, I was thinking of maybe using a PS2 to > >>> receive/BH and connect it to an NS2 with small omni to redistribute. > >>> Both would be in a bridge and allow the clients connected to connect to > >>> the main AP for PPPoE authentication. Is this a reasonable or > ridiculous > >>> solution? Any other solutions others are using that might be better? I > >>> know I could use MT but that would add complexity to the mix I don't > >>> need. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Mark > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > >>> WISPA Wants You! 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