I think the NAT isn't the issue here. The nat gets to the xbox when it 
comes to A. connecting to a game. or B. Hosting a game.
Once they are in a game it shouldn't be a nat issue.
The xbox 360 doesn't use much when it comes bandwidth. But think about it 
more like a VOIP call. Its very sensitive to jitter and packet loss.
Also, When it comes to the xbox world the servers aren't always up to par. 
This is because most games have the user hosting a "server" and everyone 
connects to that person. Well most people don't have the internet for that. 
Or they are far away and the latency just getting to them is bad. So you 
may not be the bad guy here.

Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x106


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From: "jp" <j...@saucer.midcoast.com>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:39 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360

I think double nat can cause a problem for that sometimes. A low quality 
home firewall/router can also contribute. Lend the customer a different 
router and see if that helps.

On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 06:18:57AM -0500, Mike wrote:
> They ARE behind a double nat.  They are a rural pocket of family I 
> feed with a sector, then have a repeater on one of the buildings.  I 
> put a robust client in the house, and a switch.  This one has a long 
> Ethernet cable from the switch to the XBox.  They tested at almost 2M 
> down and almost 3M up.
> 
> Have you set up QOS queues for XBox?
> 
> Mike
> 
> At 10:15 PM 10/4/2009, you wrote:
> >What kind of network topology do you have between your head end and 
their
> >Xbox?  Two or more layers of NAT, from what I read, bother the Xbox.
> >
> >What kind of bandwidth does he get after a speed test?  Xbox uses a lot 
more
> >then I expect.  I remember at a LAN party the 1.5 meg T1 was full by 
3-4
> >Xboxes.
> >
> >Josh Luthman
> >Office: 937-552-2340
> >Direct: 937-552-2343
> >1100 Wayne St
> >Suite 1337
> >Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> >improbable, must be the truth."
> >--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> >
> >
> >On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> >
> > > I at least 15% of my customers use 360 and none have problems...  and 
two
> > > of
> > > them (myself included) are highly intolerant of network issues.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Mike Hammett
> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > From: "Mike" 
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 9:41 PM
> > > To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> > > Subject: [WISPA] XBOX 360
> > >
> > > > I have a couple XBOX 360 players saying they are having lag
> > > > issues.  It seems a low bandwidth consumer.  How are you guys
> > > > optimizing for them?  I'd like to try and make them happier. Is 
there
> > > > a down side?
> > > >
> > > > I know Marlon asked last winter but a good answer never appeared on 
the
> > > > list.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
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