I would expect to find it on higher end radios...  Redline, Orthogon, etc.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: "Jerry Richardson" <jrichard...@aircloud.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 2:30 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions

> OK I get it - make it up on the Rx side.
>
> So we need to find the elusive wooly-haired negative db DFS compliant 
> radio. Who makes such an animal?
>
> Jerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:27 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
>
> A 44 dB antenna (yes, they make them).  Some radios can be set to negative
> dB, so if a radio could be set as far as -14 and was certified with it...
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jerry Richardson" <jrichard...@aircloud.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:52 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
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>> 40 miles @ 5.4?
>>
>> How is that possible with a 30dB EIRP max limit? Sure you could use a 
>> 36dB
>> dish but I can't see how you can turn the power down enough to stay in
>> compliance.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:45 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
>>
>> Well, depending on what the radio was certified with, you could
>> theoretically go 40 miles in 5.4 GHz.  I'm not sure I'd put those 
>> antennas
>> on a Rohn 25, though.  :-p
>>
>> MT 20 MHz can go 35 megs or so, depending on board HP and RF conditions.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Eric Rogers" <ecrog...@precisionds.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:30 AM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: [WISPA] Backhaul Questions
>>
>>> Ok guys...Looking for both Mikrotik experience and others.  We currently
>>> have a Mikrotik backhaul between each of our towers using NStreme and we
>>> have been extremely happy with the performance.  We recently upgraded a
>>> tower because we were hitting 15M or so during peak times and was afraid
>>> it couldn't handle much more.  We upgraded that backhaul to a Motorola
>>> PTP for future capacity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MT Gurus:
>>>
>>> Each backhaul ranges in distance, each ranges from 3 miles (3 backhauls)
>>> and the rest are about 12 miles (5 backhauls).  Since we have been using
>>> Mikrotik, I have reliably seen up to 10 Meg, and I am afraid 15 Meg is
>>> pushing the envelope on a 20 MHz channel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How much capacity can I reliably push on a 20 MHz channel using NStreme?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Other Gurus:
>>>
>>> I understand the following are loaded questions, but budget is around
>>> $1000-3000 range and the capacity needs to be around the 60Meg mark (30
>>> each way or without a defined 1:1 guarantee, capability to flex and be
>>> able to push 30M each way).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I start upgrading to larger backhauls on busy links, what type of
>>> equipment should I look at?
>>>
>>> What can support VoIP?
>>>
>>> Anything that GPS times for frequency reuse?
>>>
>>> Anything work in the 5.4GHz range at a 12 mile distance?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Rogers
>>>
>>> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
>>>
>>> (317) 831-3000 x200
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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