Completely off topic - but during the holiday season, we replace the regular
white lighting in the dispatch center with red rope lighting - a bit easier
on the eyes...

For our larger mapping projects (back on topic), I'll either use the two
LCDs on the wall or a projector...

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Robert West <[email protected]>wrote:

> Very nice!  Back in my Qwest days, the NOC used projectors to display
> network status on the upper part of the curved walls.  It was pretty dark
> in
> there obviously so it was very quiet as well.  Was a nice place to chill
> out
> and hide.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of AJ
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:04 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Large Monitors with high resolution for Mapping
> Programs...
>
>  I have a pair of 48" Vizio LCDs mounted on the wall for various
> infrastructure monitoring using the RGB inputs and a dual output card in a
> Dell desktop. They work pretty well but they both had issues with dim
> picture after about 3 months... Replaced the power outlet to them and the
> warrenty replaced both displays. So far so good for the last year or so.
> Makes it MUCH easier to monitor at a glance critical systems without having
> to use up more of my primary PC's desktop (tri monitor setup)...
>
> Picture attached - we usually have a number of telemetry monitoring
> applications up...
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Brad Belton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Agreed, resolution is key for me too.  I keep the right monitor open
> > with Wispmon or RadioMobile running or sometimes I just have six or
> > more Winbox windows open on it monitoring client routers etc...
> >
> > I don't know what I'd do without the desktop space I have now and have
> > even found myself looking for more on occasion!
> >
> > We have a projector setup in my brothers office that has decent
> > resolution, but no way I'd want that over my 30" monitors.  However,
> playing any first
> > person shooter game is impressive.   LOL!
> >
> > My other brother uses his 1080p 46-47" LCD Vizio on his wall as a
> > second monitor.  It's ok too, but again resolution is lacking for much
> > of anything other than network status information or general web
> browsing.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:36 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> >
> > I believe there are bigger\better monitors, but I believe you're going
> > up exponentially in price.  I know I've seen a DLP projector whose
> > smaller resolution was 3000 or 4000, but it was about $125k.
> >
> > I'd rather have 30" monitors than larger TVs because of resolution,
> > but I'm thinking a large 1080p TV mounted to a wall would make a nice
> > display for a rolling network status presentation (network maps of
> > different parts, server
> >
> > status, network utilizations, etc.).
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Brad Belton" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:23 AM
> > To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> >
> > > Funny you mention this...yes, viewing RadioMobile or Wispmon on my
> > > twin 30"
> > > monitors running 2560 x 1600 each makes for a fair amount of
> playground.
> > > <grin>
> > >
> > > Hmmm...twin 52" monitors would be nice, but I doubt there is a display
> > > larger than 30" that will support 2560 x 1600.   Dang it!
> > >
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf Of Robert West
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:57 AM
> > > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> > >
> > > You mean you don't have a 52" widescreen monitor?  Until you get the
> > > technology that you are SUPPOSED to have, stop your belly aching
> > > just because you can't read 8pt type!
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > (Joke)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf Of rwf
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:15 AM
> > > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> > >
> > > WOW! It is expensive. Nearly 3% of the revenue from each customer
> > > (assuming approx 35.00 monthly per customer) is a nice hit.
> > > And whatever their website is done in, does me in.  That "initializing"
> > > that
> > > keeps coming up and the small typeface is frustrating.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf Of Brad Belton
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:38 PM
> > > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> > >
> > > A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great
> > > path profile tool built-in.  The person that is developing the
> > > product is a long time wireless operator, so he has a very good feel
> > > for what our industry needs.
> > >
> > > www.wispmon.com
> > >
> > > I've been a RadioMobile user for years now, but have found myself
> > > using the path profiler in wispmon more often than RadioMobile.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf Of Brian Webster
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:21 PM
> > > To: WISPA General List
> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
> > >
> > > $75 using 10 meter terrain data and 30 meter resolution tree clutter.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank You,
> > > Brian Webster
> > > 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
> > > Cooperstown, NY 13326
> > > www.wirelessmapping.com
> > > 607-643-4055 Voice
> > > 607-435-3988 Mobile
> > > 208-692-1898 Fax
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> THANKS to EVERYONE for their input. I'll let you know what I decide.
> > >> Another
> > >> question: Normally I do my path analysis with Delorme but I'm not
> > feeling
> > >> that is good enough considering the cost of the project and some
> > >> trees I see in the distance. Is anyone out there offering path
> > >> analysis for a fair rate?
> > >> -RickG
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Rick:
> > >> >
> > >> > You have been getting some good advice here.  I am not a
> > >> > networking guru and have never played one on TV, but do know a
> > >> > thing or two about
> > >> RF.
> > >> >
> > >> > It seems with your physical layout you may have an opportunity
> > >> > for some space diversity.  A simple link will probably serve you
> > >> > with 3 nines or so.  If infrequent outages will sit OK with the
> > >> > user, then engineer a link with single radios.
> > >> >
> > >> > If you use some of the more inexpensive radio solutions as
> > >> > proffered here, you could put up two links with 20' to 30' of
> > >> > physical separation.  Or, one dish on the water tower, and two on
> > >> > the new tower.  The single one could be the AP and the other two
> > >> > remote ones stations.  You could use an MT router running OSPF
> > >> > with one having a higher cost than the other.  If one failed, the
> other would take over.
> > >> >
> > >> > My fear of a 20 mile link would be those atmospheric events we
> > >> > sometimes see -- tropospheric ducting.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would be curious what you come up with.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> >
> > >> > At 09:22 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote:
> > >> > >Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear.
> > >> > >Customer
> > >> is
> > >> > >building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I
> > >> > >choose
> > >> must
> > >> > >work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions?
> > >> > >-RickG
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
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