I'll stick with the tried and true method for absolute sure signal path calculations, the Ouija board. I gave up the divining rod idea, it was off about 8% of the time. Couldn't handle the aggravation.
Bob- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link Same here. I normally use Delorme but in this case, the cost is justified. Besides, I'm passing the cost on to the customer :) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Robert West <[email protected]>wrote: > Yeah, I'd have to get quite a few more customers to pay for such a thing. > I > can certainly see the value in it but value versus food...... Uh.... I > gotta eat. > > Someday, though. Someday.......... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:42 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link > > As they say, you get what you pay for. For normal stuff, especially close > range, you can use a variety of software packages. But for a high dollar > tower, you want someone with the expertise and the software to give you > reliable results. -RickG > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Robert West > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Me = Cheap > > > > RadioMobile = Free > > > > Wispmon = Yikes! > > > > It better be good but I think I'd need a few thousand customers before I > > didn't feel that price. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Brad Belton > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 11:38 PM > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link > > > > A relatively nifty new monitoring service out there also has a great path > > profile tool built-in. The person that is developing the product is a > long > > time wireless operator, so he has a very good feel for what our industry > > needs. > > > > www.wispmon.com > > > > I've been a RadioMobile user for years now, but have found myself using > the > > path profiler in wispmon more often than RadioMobile. > > > > Best, > > > > > > Brad > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Brian Webster > > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:21 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link > > > > $75 using 10 meter terrain data and 30 meter resolution tree clutter. > > > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. > > Cooperstown, NY 13326 > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > 607-643-4055 Voice > > 607-435-3988 Mobile > > 208-692-1898 Fax > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > THANKS to EVERYONE for their input. I'll let you know what I decide. > > > Another > > > question: Normally I do my path analysis with Delorme but I'm not > feeling > > > that is good enough considering the cost of the project and some trees > I > > > see > > > in the distance. Is anyone out there offering path analysis for a fair > > > rate? > > > -RickG > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Rick: > > > > > > > > You have been getting some good advice here. I am not a networking > > > > guru and have never played one on TV, but do know a thing or two > about > > > RF. > > > > > > > > It seems with your physical layout you may have an opportunity for > > > > some space diversity. A simple link will probably serve you with 3 > > > > nines or so. If infrequent outages will sit OK with the user, then > > > > engineer a link with single radios. > > > > > > > > If you use some of the more inexpensive radio solutions as proffered > > > > here, you could put up two links with 20' to 30' of physical > > > > separation. Or, one dish on the water tower, and two on the new > > > > tower. The single one could be the AP and the other two remote ones > > > > stations. You could use an MT router running OSPF with one having a > > > > higher cost than the other. If one failed, the other would take > over. > > > > > > > > My fear of a 20 mile link would be those atmospheric events we > > > > sometimes see -- tropospheric ducting. > > > > > > > > I would be curious what you come up with. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > At 09:22 PM 11/30/2009, you wrote: > > > > >Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. 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