Actually, as long as it is all done with quality (read: expensive) gear, 
it really wouldn't look all that different.

We saw temps of -40 F for a while last winter, and Marlon is spot on. 
The only thing that I would add is to make sure that the layer closest 
to your skin is something other than cotton (something polyester or 
wool, Under Armor is great but expensive), especially if there is a 
chance that layer could get wet.

Josh

Robert West wrote:
> Thanks, Marlon.  You have any picture of you in all that?!
> 
> Do they make a heated coat that can work off PoE?  Just askin'
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 11:28 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
> 
> It's 10* here right now.  Gotta love it!
> 
> First, LAYERS!!!!  If I know I'll be outside I start with a long sleeved 
> shirt.  Usually something like longjohns.
> 
> I wear thick blue jeans.
> 
> Next go the Carharts.  Not a pair of knockoffs.  I've got both, the Carharts
> 
> are the only way to go.  Much much warmer.
> 
> If it's really cold, I've got a HUGE thick winter coat that I'll put over 
> the top of all of that.
> 
> I wear good, fleece lined snow boots.  Rubber ones so they do NOT get wet. 
> I do NOT tuck in the pants, they stay outside to keep the snow out.
> 
> For gloves I have a couple of pairs.  One factory one my own version. 
> Basically they are both fairly thin dirtbiking or sports gloves.  Cut the 
> fingers out at the second knuckle.  The factory ones fit a bit tighter and 
> are easier to work with.  On my own ones I leave the pinky and 3rd finger 
> on, can't do much with them when working with small nuts and bolts 
> anyway.....
> 
> Use hand and foot warmers!  I buy them by the case every year (they don't 
> work as well the second year anyway, even though still sealed).  Loosely 
> tape a warmer on each wrist.  On the underneath where your arteries are at. 
> The colder it is, the bigger the hand warmer you can use.  That will do 
> amazing things when it comes to keeping your hands warm!  Honest.
> 
> Keep a large hand warmer in your front pants pockets.  That's also near an 
> artery and will help keep your feet warm.  If there is room in your shoes, 
> use foot warmers there too.  Modern technology can be quite helpful.
> 
> I've thought of picking up some of those new heated coats, but I don't trust
> 
> anything with batteries to be there for me when it's really cold and/or has 
> been sitting for a while.
> 
> Oh yeah, sometimes I wear 2 or 3 pairs of socks (gotta use bigger shoes when
> 
> doing this and that can cause a safety issue when you don't wear them all of
> 
> the time).
> 
> For a hat I have a fleece lined all cloth one that I can tie on.  It's got 
> flaps that completely cover my ears.  If it gets really nasty I'll slip a 
> hand warmer or two in it as well.  I'd love to find an even thicker version 
> of it but haven't come up with one yet.  I will also probably get a pull 
> over ski mask one day.  The kind you see crooks wear.  As I've gotten older 
> it's harder to keep my skin from getting wind burnt when it's cold and 
> windy.
> 
> Lastly but most importantly, LIMIT YOUR EXPOSURE!!!!!!!  If it's not mission
> 
> critical stay inside.  Or at least keep your shifts outside short until 
> things warm up.  When it gets below 10* out here I don't do installs.  The 
> cat5 jackets crack at about 0* if you bend them much.  The drills and cars 
> don't like to run well etc.  It's just much too hard on everything.  Out 
> here it usually warms up in a week or so, people hate it, but they 
> understand.  I also tend to not work when it gets really windy (ladders blow
> 
> over etc.).  I don't shut down for high heat, that can be more easily 
> managed with cold water and slow movement....
> 
> Hope that helps,
> marlon
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:07 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
> 
> 
>> It's cold.  I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and 
>> my
>> feet are frozen.  Time for new boots and the rest of the winter
>> gear..........  Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT?
>>
>> I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and 
>> usually
>> buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC.  Everything is pretty 
>> much
>> worn out, time for crap to keep me warm.
>>
>> Ideas so that I don't freeze to death?
>>
>> And gloves!  Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands 
>> at
>> the same time.
>>
>> So as usual........  Who loves what and who hates what?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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