I understand that but the way the thing reads, she can go anyplace now, that sounds like a cell card which she could have had already at the lake. As far as class, access to broadband is limited only by cash, for the most part. WildBlue is already available as long as you can see sky as well as probably high speed data from a cell company. My issue was the beating of the drum that someone who I assume already had access by virtue of disposable cash (cottage, vintage cars, etc.) can get her email. Why hold someone up like that as an example of what can be accomplished when I'm sure there are more compelling stories from the have nots?
Just my thoughts on it. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation Bob, There's not a lot of money in Meigs County Ohio where we are, but where the folks with money live in our county is where the broadband aint. The customers we are picking up are all across the board. Including the upper class who are sick of paying for satellite. Satellite is an option, but wireless is better. You can't VPN or remote access (in a usable manner) via satellite. So just because somebody can afford a cottage does not mean they have broadband. Besides, those are the folks who buy the packages you have the greatest margin on. Among our key clients is a doctor, who is also the county cornorer and the EMS director. It helps patients and the county that these folks can now work from home. The need for broadband transends class. Dave On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > Maybe I'm sensitive or easily put off but the last Newsletter that we > received from the Connect Ohio division of CN had me "almost" confront the > CN coordinator at the meeting. I know that the mission is to provide > broadband to EVERYONE and that includes those who can already afford > access, > (?) but every newsletter I get seems to be pandering to who they are > getting > their money from and doesn't have much to do with providing broadband in > rural areas. (Many examples of AT&T big shots in photo ops with state and > local politicians donating PC's to schools and similar activities) > > Here is the word for word front page article in their newsletter. This > alone caused me to rethink any participation in their "efforts" or lack of. > > > ( Link is here http://www.connectohio.org/ ) > > How broadband changed my life > > I am a 48-year-old married mother of four with what you can imagine is a > very busy life. My husband and I enjoy traveling, collecting and showing > vintage cars, spending time at our cottage on Lake Erie and sailing. Our > children range in age from 17 to 22, and we are currently hosting a > 17-year-old exchange student from Brazil. Broadband has had two major > influences on my life: > > 1. It has allowed me to log on to my work network from anywhere. I can work > from home or check e-mails from the cottage. No longer am I tethered to my > desk at work in order to get work done. > > 2. It has allowed me to further my education. I have recently gone back to > school to obtain my master's degree in Management Information Technology. > With my busy lifestyle, there is no way I could have realized this dream if > I had to attend classes at a bricks and mortar school. The speed and > convenience of broadband allows me to take all of my courses online, from > anywhere. > > > Uh..... Here's my keywords in this. Vintage cars (plural) Cottage on Lake > Erie, sailing, exchange student, Masters Degree in Information Technology. > > If I had to guess I would say that this person probably already had > broadband before CN came along in one form or another and from the way it > reads where she can go anyplace and be online, sounds like a wireless card > from a cell company. > > Where is the relevance in this to what we are trying to accomplish? Just > sounded like they were spotlighting someone that the people in charge could > identify with instead of the single unemployed mother in rural Appalachia > who is now able to sell her recipes or quilts or whatever to a world > market...blah, blah, blah. A REAL change in someone's life, not just so > some well to do middle aged educational tech coordinator can check her > email > while riding in one of their vintage cars or in the sail boat.... > Sheeeesh. > > "Look, look! We helped your sister and now she can get her email while > relaxing at the cottage on the lake after a long day of sailing!" > > Makes me sick. > > Bob- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Chuck Hogg > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:59 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation > > I think once you have been doing it at least 2 years, you will begin to > have a change of heart. We were in our infant stage. We begged for > help and cooperation on helping us get access to multiple locations. > They essentially said, "Good luck!". All they did for us was cheerlead > across KY about how to bridge the technology gaps. > > We had to get almost every independent ISP in KY to let the government > know how bad they were doing. They mapped areas of potential for > cable/dsl co's and pushed WildBlue like it was going out of style. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of David Hannum > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 12:16 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation > > I'm not sure I've ever posted to the list here before. But I have to > chime > in on this. While New Era Broadband is a fledgling in the WISP arena, > we > owe our existence to Connect Ohio, especially their wireless guys Chip > Spann > and Layne Wagner. I've read everything everyone has said about CN and > Connect Ohio. From 100% first hand experience, I disagree with about > 90% if > it. First, CN & Connect Ohio are technology & vendor neutral. So if > you > are looking for someone that is 100% in the WISP corner, you won't find > it > with them. That said, if you want WISP help, they will be 100% behind > you. > As for the comment that they are a telco tool . . . We have not found > that > to be the case in any way, shape or form in our dealing with them. > Note: I > said in OUR dealings with them. The maps? No matter who would make > them, > the are only as good as the info voluntarily submitted by the carriers. > In > our case, Windstream was just stupid in what they claim to cover. But, > Connect Ohio could only go with what they were given. > > The engineering, tech support, help with putting funding proposals > together, > all of this has added up to a great experience for us. We are a new > company > - just been online since June of this year. We just put our third > access > point up a couple of weeks ago. But I have to say, to this point, CN/CO > and > Chip & Layne have been good for us. Your results may vary. > > Kind Regards, > David Hannum > New Era Broadband, LLC > www.newerabroadband.com > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:35 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Same here. -RickG > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> > wrote: > > > > > Bad for us. They pushed WildBlue and HughesNet over us because > > > WB/Hughes paid them $10k to be a partner. They also provided the > > > mapping for Bellsouth/ATT and Insight (cable co) and identified the > > > areas that they should serve. In my guestimate, it hurt us to the > tune > > > of 50-150 customers. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Chuck Hogg > > > Shelby Broadband > > > 502-722-9292 > > > ch...@shelbybb.com > > > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 2:30 PM > > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > > Subject: [WISPA] Connected Nation > > > > > > Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for > us? > > > > > > My state hired them for the map, but I don't want to respond with > any > > > information if the things I heard in the past are still true. I > don't > > > remember the points, I just remembered that they were bad news, so > to > > > avoid them. They sent me an NDA, but I never really read any of > that > > > stuff anyway. 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