Not me, I'm a realist for the most part. I read their mission as to help provide broadband in whatever manner it takes to do it. In our area, as someone mentioned, there is the fiber ring being built by Horizon Telecom out of Chillicothe. Very good! We want that. I'm for whatever it takes to build middle mile into the rural areas but you will get a faster and more bang for your buck out in BFE using wireless for last mile and CN knows that and they will say so. And to go further, if a Telco receives a big grant to install DSL out in no man's land with 1 house for every 4 square miles, I'll applaud that as well, believe it or not. My goal isn't to get all I can for me, I got into this to "help" provide access where there isn't any.
But that kind of is my point when I jumped into this. CN or Connect Ohio doesn't look to me to be as interested in helping people who will never give them the spot light as they are showing how much they can hob-knob with state reps, congressmen, CEO's and how they helped someone with enough cash to provide their own access. All along, I'm out here trying to cut corners, work deals and provide the best service I can at cut rate prices so that those without the car collection, lake cottage and masters degree can afford it. To be perfectly honest, I really don't think they are providing a service that we didn't already have, aside from the mapping, and that could have been setup perfectly well by a non-profit or even a for-profit firm who have a local interest in this. I have received years of experience from the wireless community in a span of less than a year and it's free for the asking. There are even many here who, for a fee, and that's expected and respected, come and help you out of a jam or show you how to do things differently at all hours of the day and night. To have this CN person whip in once a month, pull out MS Project or Power Point and go over what we need to do for the next month and an hour and a half later leave........... ???? For the Telco's, not for the Telco's, for the Wisp, for the Dog Catcher, I really don't care. Less "Schmooze" and more action in the areas that need it most without all the crowing is all I ask. I learned this one thing a long time ago, "The busiest person in town is the one you never know about. The laziest person in town is the one who is constantly telling everyone how busy they are". I see a lot of "We're so busy" coming from the non-tech side of this bunch. "Too much talkie-talkie" as I say in my most politically incorrect fake Chinese accent. Now, and I'm not trying to be a jerk (sometimes I don't have to try....sigh) Did you pay them for any their services and if so, do you want to tell us a rough range of what it was? Not looking for fuel to add to it, I'm just really interested because they had such a hard sell when I talked to them and I dropped them quick. I would totally expect their tech guys to be straight shooters and good guys because I suspect they are like us and are never at the top of the food chain. It's the "suits" who muck it all up for us. I will never fault anyone for paying for info and for help when they need it, so I'm no finger pointer. I've wasted plenty of my own cash (and a lot more of my parents when I was younger. Ask them. After a long pause, my father may be able to bring himself to tell you) on my own personal tech addiction. :) Bob- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Hannum Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation My only point (and this is my last one, then I'll go back to lurking) is that the comments appear to me that maybe we (WISPA members) were expecting Connect Ohio / CN to be a wireless only advocate. However, at least in Ohio, they received money to push broadband - regardless of the way it arrives at the home or business. Where we have requested help with our wireless business, we have received great help and and great cooperation. I don't expect them to "favor" wireless over FTTH or DSL, because those providers are paying taxes too. But where they do help me, I expect it to be unbiased. Their wireless folks have been straight shooters, and 100% dedicated to helping our wireless be successful. What limited success we've had so far, we owe in a big part to Connected Nation / Connect Ohio. Kind Regards, David Hannum Managing Partner New Era Broadband, LLC www.newerabroadband.com On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[email protected]>wrote: > Yeah, that's my recollection too. We (wispa) almost joined an effort that > they had going. In the end we (wispa) decided not to participate. I think > Rick would remember more about that than I do. > > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Bartosch" <[email protected]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Connected Nation > > > > Been lots of discussion about this. Without repeating all that > discussion, > > I think the conclusion has been, "bad for us". Telco tool. > > > > Chuck > > > > On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > >> Has anyone determined whether Connected Nation is good or bad for us? > >> > >> My state hired them for the map, but I don't want to respond with any > >> information if the things I heard in the past are still true. I don't > >> remember the points, I just remembered that they were bad news, so to > >> avoid them. They sent me an NDA, but I never really read any of that > >> stuff anyway. Most any contract is about as effective as a paper bag > >> holding water. > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> http://www.ics-il.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > >> WISPA Wants You! 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