Hi Josh,

I'm wanting to track how much each individual customers is using so I 
can bill the ones that go over our bandwidth cap.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


On 3/30/2010 1:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> I think we need to find out if "I am looking for a solution that will
> keep track of the monthly bandwidth consumption for all of my
> broadband customers..." means how much you're entire upstream is using
> or how much each customer is using individually so you can find the
> top few heavy users.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Scott Reed<scottr...@onlyinternet.net>  
> wrote:
>    
>> 3)  Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location
>> I took it that all traffic goes through these as well.
>>
>> Matt, does all your traffic run through an MT somewhere on its way out?
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>      
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>>     4)  StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location
>>>
>>> It's StarOS NATing the customers off of the backbone.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts.”
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Scott Reed<scottr...@onlyinternet.net>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> If you can run IPTrack (see some of Marlon's previous posts) you have
>>>> have the MTs report by IP address back to the server.
>>>> I  have done this on my network, though it is not running right now.  I
>>>> would be glad to help if you opt to go this way.
>>>>
>>>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly
>>>>> bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a
>>>>> hard time coming up with a good solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our goal is to collect the traffic flows every 15 minutes and generate
>>>>> three things:
>>>>>
>>>>>      1)  Internal reports showing bandwidth consumption by customers and
>>>>> that is in a database form that we can perform queries on
>>>>>      2)  Data that can be exported to our customer portal page that will
>>>>> show customers how much bandwidth they have consumed since the first of
>>>>> each month
>>>>>      3)  A batch file showing customers over their thresholds that we can
>>>>> import into our billing system (Freeside) at the end of the month so we
>>>>> can bill overages
>>>>>
>>>>> Our system is setup as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>      1)  StarOS access points
>>>>>      2)  OSPF backbone back to two separate 50 meg Internet backbone links
>>>>>      3)  Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location
>>>>>      4)  StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location
>>>>>      5)  Mikrotik edge routers connected to the Internet backbone
>>>>>
>>>>> Radius accounting is not an option, due to inaccurate IP accounting
>>>>> information returned by the StarOS APs.   PPPoE is also not an option as
>>>>> we have 2000+ customers in place and not all of the hardware would
>>>>> easily convert to PPPoE.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally, the data should be collectable at the Mikrotik core routers, as
>>>>> that is the place where all of the private IP traffic is still in its
>>>>> pre-NAT status.   We have been trying to keep track of it with Netflow
>>>>> data from our Mikrotik core routers, but it does not seem to be accurate
>>>>> and there are documented problems with the Mikrotik Netflow exports.  We
>>>>> have confirmed that the data we have been collecting is not accurate,
>>>>> and I have no intention on billing a customer based on inaccurate data.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a couple of reporting engines that we have tried, with mixed
>>>>> levels of success.   I did contact Brandon Checketts about his program,
>>>>> which was close to what we wanted, but it is out of date and he was not
>>>>> responsive so our efforts are focused on either using something open
>>>>> source that we can modify or just buying an appliance that will do what
>>>>> we need.   My preference is to go open source because we have multiple
>>>>> backbone connections and also because I have several consulting
>>>>> customers who want to have similar setups put in place on their
>>>>> networks.   Also, I want to make sure that this is "revenue neutral" and
>>>>> can pay for for itself in the overage billing after it is installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can install either a switch or a transparent bandwidth monitoring
>>>>> server of some kind between the core and NAT servers to collect the data
>>>>> flows.    My lead tech and I are both Linux savvy, and would prefer
>>>>> something that runs on Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recall that Travis Johnson posted a description of an open source,
>>>>> linux-based system that he uses to track bandwidth, but I cannot find
>>>>> the email where he lays all of the elements out.   Does anyone have any
>>>>> recommendations for this situation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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